I crunched some numbers and if you don't live in Will County your chances of drawing a permit for this hunt should be slim to none. That is based on the current proposed guidelines that I read. McHenry County is different. So I'm glad they are doing this hunt, but not counting on it for my fall plans.

Also, considering I-355 is totally ripped up with construction and is just a parking lot, I am passing on attending the last meeting.

It will never happen. the restrictions they have placed on their program mean only about a dozen hunters would get in the preserves and they need to remove hundreds of deer. also, the wya they have it set up is full of staffing and administration--running about $5000/day to run the hunting program and for a dozen deer, it is too expensive. won't happen

fe2manz - YOU ARE THE BUSTED TROLL OF THE DAY!!!

Below is a copy of the BS post you put in the Daily Herald May 7th.

Now you show up on this site with a grand total of ONE (1) post!

You can't even spell ! As indicated by your post below. You are a tree hugger! Showing up on our site. All of your statements below are false and ignorant. McHenry County is the only Chicago area that has a hunting program set up in the Chicago area, and they rave about how successful it has been. I participated in it last year. The $200 fees hunters pay to participate completely cover the cost of the program. Sharpshooters do not generate income, they cost $500/deer plus supervision expense. The numbers don't lie. Your's do. Cook and DuPage, etc. Counties continue to blow taxpayer dollars on sharpshooters. Even says so in their forest preserve brochures. Hunting saves huge money and is the ONLY THING THAT WORKS! History has proven it over and over.

Now get in your minivan, go to your soccer game then the McDonalds drive thru and buy yourself the burger you paid someone else to kill. And don't forget to hug your tree good night.


COPIED FROM MAY 7th HERALD BLOG:


fe2manz wrote: the foerst preserve would not be paying anyone to be a sharpshooter--it is volunteer work by shooters approved by IDNR and the meat goes to charity. hunters cannot and will not make a dent in tehnumbers of deer--it doesn't work in Du Page or Lake or Piatt or McHenry or Cook or any other county in the midwest and it won't work here. Regulated hunting costs a great deal, and then you have to add monitoring to the places you do hunting so you are talking maybe $100,000 per year---ask any surrounding county why they do not hunt? too many good reasons not to hunt and very few good ones to do hunting. as a taxpayer--DO WE AHVE ENOUGH MONEY BLEEDING OUT ALREADY BEFOER ADDING HUNTING AS ANOTHER HOLE IN THE BUDGET/ 5/7/2010 1:01 PM CDT on suburbanchicagonews.com Recommend Report Abuse fe2manz wrote: As a taxpayer, there is no reason to hunt--there are reasons no other forest preserve in IL hunts: it costs too much (more than sharp shooting), it is too hard to regulate, takes too many resources and most of all, IT DOES NOT WORK. Hunting does not work as deer management in urban areas. It hasn't worked in any other area in the US, and it won't work in Will COunty. You will have to hunt AND sharpshoot and that means a lot of wasted tax dollars.the board votes on this next week--all of their email addresses are on the FPDWC web site--so email them and tell them you don't want to pay for hunting when less than 1% of Will CO. hunts and only a small percentage of that could even be allowed to hunt--tens of thousands of dollars just to spend more on monitoring and then shaprshootin after hunting season. fails. call surrounding counties and ask them why htey don't hunt. the Board is pusihng this, not the people.

Soooo I say hunters are stupid to buy a tag when those in charge stuck it to the hunter in the first place. It's about time the hunter gets paid, yes paid to take out nuisance animals.

Hunters should've smiled the first time they hired shooters because sooner or later they would turn to them for the fix. Do it around here and I will do what I can to convince others to hold out despite the bozo who writes for the local rag. A burb has a problem, they dislike hunters and are going to pay to have them thinned. I say good they can pay me and everyone else a bounty sooner or later. The local rag writer got the state to declare the county in a higher harvest bracket and there's no way it should've been. Won't fix the problem. I'm a hunter, I'm patient.

Don't buy any tags and they will give you a bounty for each head. It won't take but a few years. Tons of deer every where else, no one needs to hunt there.

Make'm pay ya. You'd like that wouldn't ya? It's in your power to make it happen just keep it in mind.

It's bounty time and I for one say it's about time hunters wise up and stop paying to fix others problems.

You got 10 what are you braging about and check your grammar badge at the door, this is a hunting site anything above a grunt is a plus.

fe2... your dead wrong hunting does work, get a history book on the almost extinction of animals in a very short period of time in this country. We can remove a whole species in short order. Hunting is very effective. I'll tell you what isn't, when man starts fooling around with wild animals thinking they can change'm some how. Get a history lesson on that too.

"The people" need some education. After the deer herd is in check start to work on the public education system. Seems the same breeding problems exist there too.

10$ bounty on each head will create a big hole in that herd for less than anything else. I'd do it for 10 a head.

It isn't that hunting isn't effective--the restrictions placed on hunting in urban areas IS not effective. that is why EVERYONE who is hunting is supplementing with sharpshooting--and if you are using money to sharpshoot, why spend it twice? THAT is why hunting is not adopted in these areas--if there was land enough for unmonitored or large-scale hunting it would work, but the plan for hunting that allows 14 hunters in 5 preserves will not work. Go to the meetings and look at the pans. All the sites are staffed by multiple paid people--those are the restrictions in the plans--it isn't sign-in, sigh-out take your animal home and be done with it hunting. Sorry guys, but that system of hunting will not work.
You can't do bounty hunting in the preserves, you can't go outside IDNR regs, you are restricted to larger buffer zones, fields of fire, partial season--so don't go spouting about educational deficiencies when you are ignorant of the issue at hand. this isn't about HUNTING---it is about deer management in urban areas and if ANYONE took the tiem to read the hundred or so pages the forest preserve put out, they would see that--and the costs are budgeted for--and it will not work. Call DuPage, Lake, McHenry (not a forest preserve, but a conservation district) and ask them why they don't hunt. It isn't because there is no interest. It isn't because they can't hunt. It is because that the restrictions of urban hunting as imposed by their governing bodies makes it not viable. Read all of that information and then preach the history of hunting effectiveness to someone who hasn't...with degrees in natural history of the Midwest, ecology, mammalogy and outdoor recreation, I am well-versed in what the books say--and since they have ruled out archery, and considering only very restrictive shotgun seasons, it won't work.
Even if you double the proposed numbers of hunters to 30--for 5 preserves--and they ALL get 3 deer each--you still have to come in and sharpshoot 300 or more deer--just this year. Not even taking into account that all versions of the plan would require between 15-24 staff for those 5 preserves during hunts--that is almost 1 staff member per hunter--these are all things people would know if they took the time to read all of the documents, not just the outlines and pamphlets that just list the high points. It is all available on their website.
Again, this is NOT about hunting, it is about highly regulated and monitored hunting in urban areas with shotguns--all of the people form every county around us are readily reached, and you can talk until you are blue in the face about what WILL work, but none of those workable solutions are on the table.

Seriously, are you joking? This is one of the most idiotic post that I have ever seen on any website ever. Maybe this counts as a post on your "I can count to 10 without my fingers" websites, but it doesn't count as one here.

I have to think the "no interest" part is the funniest thing I have seen in a LONG time. Do you do any research or just quote things written by other tree huggers? I can GAURENTEE you that if you have 30 spots and had a fee of $100 per spot you would have at least 10x that many people applying! I know Lake county would be AT LEAST that! I'd easily pay $300 for a 4 day gun hunt on an area that has never been hunted and is close to home. I know of at least 10 guys in Lake county that would apply and that is just poeple I know!

Your staffing numbers are way off too. You aren't in putting into the equation how many people it takes to staff these parks on a daily basis if there was no hunting going on. You make is seem like they are adding sooooo much more staff to these places when really it wouldn't be that many more because the parks would normally have these people working. Do you think they are flying in staff from all over for these hunts? No, these books you are quoting are ones that the activists wrote to make the hunt not happen, thankfully, people were smart enough to see through this BS.

Stop providing BS information that was done with no research and done by anti-hunting people. These papers you talk about were written with Bias points. Why don't you do some research and see how Mchenry county did the same exact thing and it has proven that they are saving thousands and thousands of dollars a year. Guess you missed that research?

Please stay off our site and we'll stay off your "I Love all the movies on Lifetime" site. Thank You

Also, what are you talking about how no other cities do this around the country? Are you joking? Every major city is doing this now. They are putting one in place around New York City as we speak now and I can name another 15 cities that do this. Ask Iowa if this program works, seems to be doing great in the cities it is implemented there. Things that you make up in your head are not facts, please don't make them sound like they are.

fe2manz;

You are incorrect when you wrote it dosent work in Piatt County.

As the Hunt in Piatt County at Robert Allerton Park has been proven to work in the reduction of deer population numbers per square mile, A reduction in Deer Vechicle collisions in the surrounding area's,they in fact did away with the sharpshooters all together , and have since allowed Bowhunting Only in the Park.
One University Of Illinois Robert Allerton Park employee ran the program while performing his regular job of pre existing Natural Areas Manager.
Allowing 65 preselected Bowhunters to participate in the Annual Bowhunt. All 65 hunters each perform 40 hours minimum of voluntary service work to the park, attend manditory meetings and pass an Archery Proficency Shooting Test before they are allowed to participate in the hunt. All Bowhunters were required to take a Doe before they were allowed to take a Buck and Bowhunters whom wished to take a second Buck were required to take a second Doe 1st, many bowhunters took as many as 5 to 8 deer each.
All deer were subject to biologial tissue & organ samples to aid in research at the University Of Illinois. Topics of research included but were not limited to testing for CWD, EHD, West Nile Virus,Lyme D and aging of deer.