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Old 04-25-2005, 01:59 PM
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I hope I got a good deal. Its a 1895SS (not stainless) 20" barrel Marlin. He said it was made in 91, and looked to be in wonderful condition. I paid 300 for it.


looks like junk to me, prolly would best be used as an anchor!!! I think I see some rust from here..........looks like the sight is bent (not that you'll hit anything with it anyway) the throat looks like its fried, and the rifling has pits on it........so wanna sell it????
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:39 PM
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No Mossy, but you look like you need a good 336C for a good price. I got one for ya.
 
Old 04-25-2005, 05:04 PM
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I confess I am partial to the 45 70 both for the history of it, its popularity, and the fact that you can buy loads up to dangerous game class if you feel the need. For the Marlin, it is possible for the wrong meplat to cause a "spontaneous dissassembly" if the edge of the meplat is contacting the primer of the following round while in the postion just prior to the chamber. That is because it is somewhat canted. Thus, I would check with the manufacturer to make sure that it works. I skip that risk as I am down to a Ruger #1 in the grandaddy.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:18 PM
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Does anyone know if a Marlin 1895G 45-70 can handle 35KPSI loads? Like to try my hand at a 300gr partition load with H4198 kicking over 2000fps. The manuals are not clear. Speer says 28K is safe, Nosler is totally unclear, Rifle mag had an article saying any gun post 72 Marlin will handle well over 40KPSI.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 06:18 AM
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Are there any disadvantages of the 18.5" barrel on the Marlin Guide gun. Is it too short?
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:25 AM
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Probably slow down your MV by up to 200fps maybe.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 07:30 AM
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Probably slow down your MV by up to 200fps maybe.
now heres the funny part, I checked this morning with a friend of mine that can order guns, he said that the marlin with the 20" barrel is $8 cheaper than the 18" but the one with the 20" barrel does not have the "G" behind the 1895 so I guess its not a guide gun??? I dont think you can get a guide gun with a 20" barrel. And yes 200 fps is about what I was thinking on the extra 2" Big boy
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:05 AM
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The Hornady Manual states that 45-70 loads for the Marlin are held to 40,000 lbs which is the same max pressure as the 444 Marlin. The Sierra Manual lists the Marlin with the Ruger No. l and 3 and the converted mausers. Hornady has always held that the Marlin action is safe to 40000.

The Guide gun would loose some velocity but its really not an issue at the ranges that it is intended to be used. Max penetration of the big cast bullets is attained at from 1600-1800 fps. Bullets beyond those speeds began to loose penetration. This was found in Corbons study with cast bullets. I should say either corbon or Garrets study I don't recall which. I have used the 45-70 a lot over the last 30 years.
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:09 AM
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James, since this is microgroove, should I have any trouble shooting cast at 1600fps? Do you have a nice 1600-1800fps 405gr load? Thinking Beartooth 405gr or Laser Cast but think laser cast are very soft.
 
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Don't that 4570 have the trajuctory of a .22lr ?
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