ok i'll bite what kind of speeds do ya'll get from 180's.i'm getting over 3200 FPS with IMR 7828 easily using hornady interlocks maybe the guys i know with ulta's are loading light but none that i've seen are breaking 3200.i know the books say they should be but they aren't.and no i don't have time to get to KY or MD unless you invite me to hunt this fall.

3340fps out of a 26" barrel using 180gr bullets and R-25.

If you aren't going to shoot more than 200 yards, the 338 '06 or 35 whelen are terrific and won't punish you.....include the 8mm '06. Out to 350 yards a 30'06 with a 180 gr nosler is perfect. Beyond that, buy a ultra something and good luck....when you get to be 60, you won't be shooting it anymore. Regards, Rick.

I can see what it may be good for in Africa or something but its so much more than needed for anything in NA. Maybe not quite enough for a main rifle in Africa and to much for plains game. I don't see a nich for it. If I were after really big game I would pass it over in a heart beat for a 375 H&H.

I agree. If I can't kill it with a .300 Mag, I'm going all the way up to a .375 or a .416 Rem Mag.

If a guy needs a big thumper, there is no down side to either the 375 or 416 Rem which I had for a while.

I can get 3350fps with 180gr Grand Slam and Retumbo. But if you are getting 3200fps with a 180gr, that is impressive. My low pressure loads for 180gr bullets are 3200.

Thats 94gr of H1000 and 180gr Nosler Partition.

Wish I could invite you but I have been reduced to hunting a 5 acre piece of land surrouded by farms, and state parks in MD, Ky there is alot of land to hunt.

Stubblejumper:

I want actual velocity not case capacity in grains of water, and again don't make it up. Good luck.

man pulling off the gloves aint ya!! I know right now, stubble is surrounded by huge manuals and old issues of handloader searching........he will find something I promise you!