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Old 03-19-2005 | 07:55 PM
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You can add Beretta slides and frames breaking to that list of urban legends as well.
I said frames cracking and that is a fact documented by the U.S. Air Force CATM.
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Old 03-19-2005 | 08:55 PM
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I have a spatula that I use to flip burgers in a frying pan on my stove, which gets a heck of aa lot hotter than the interior of a car unless the car is on fire, and it's made of plastic...and it doesn't melt.

There are hundreds of different types of polymers with a lot of different properties including very high melting points. The calculator and cassette tapes (haven't seen one of those in years BTW) were made of a type of polymer that melted at a very low temperature. I still don't buy the Glock's melting in the car bologne. If we were talking about blowing up, I'd believe you, but melting in a car, please. I'd like to see just one verifiable and documented case of a Glock melting in anything but an open fire. Until then I'm going to say that everyone who believes that nonsense is gullible, and anyone who spreads that nonsense is full of ****.

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Old 03-19-2005 | 09:33 PM
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I said frames cracking and that is a fact documented by the U.S. Air Force CATM.
"The cracks, however, did violate the terms of the M9 contract, so the lots were rejected. Beretta continued production into February and March of 1988 with the affected frames, stockpiling them in hopes of a retrofit. In April of 1988 an engineering change was approved by Berretta and Army representatives that resolved the frame crack issues. The previously rejected lots were retrofitted with the new frame design and retested. The new frames did not display the cracking problem or any other problem during the tests and were subsequently accepted by the military. (NSIAD-88-213) There were 24,000 affected handguns produced with the defective frame. ALL of them were rejected and then retrofitted and accepted by the Army. (NSIAD-88-213)"

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/true_story_m9.htm

Just because the military got some bad frames that were later corrected doesn't mean that a Beretta that you buy in a gunshop is going to self destruct on you. So yes, add that to the UFO, Bigfoot, and dragons list.

Glocks from what I've searched, it seems that Glocks most likely will notmelt in a car. Their frames are made of Nylon 6, which has a melting point of 210+ degrees C, which I don't think are attainable in a car.
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Old 03-19-2005 | 09:51 PM
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Just because the military got some bad frames that were later corrected doesn't mean that a Beretta that you buy in a gunshop is going to self destruct on you.
I didn't say they were going to self detruct either did I? If all this was corrected in 88 then why were we still having problems in 95 when I was working at CATM?
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Old 03-19-2005 | 11:29 PM
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Maybe The AF had lower standards or the Army sold them their junked out frames?
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Old 03-20-2005 | 09:45 AM
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Or maybe Beretta's lowest bidder offering is still junk just like it always was.
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