Bullet "Rise" - Dispell the Myth
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Fork Horn
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This is very interesting stuff, thanks for the good responses even if I don’t understand some of it (physics was not my forte in college).
If I know anyone needing a PhD thesis in aerodynamic engineering, I will revert him or her to this post.
One question I have is from a post above. Someone was saying that a bullet drops faster in cold weather versus warm weather due to the density of the cold air. Why would the air temperature affect this if gravity is pushing down at a constant? An example would help to clarify this if at all possible.
If I know anyone needing a PhD thesis in aerodynamic engineering, I will revert him or her to this post.
One question I have is from a post above. Someone was saying that a bullet drops faster in cold weather versus warm weather due to the density of the cold air. Why would the air temperature affect this if gravity is pushing down at a constant? An example would help to clarify this if at all possible.
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Audubon & Red Rock, Penna.
If you are using Barnes X bullets, you will not have to worry about any of these things. X bullets defy all laws of physics - especially if fired from a Weatherby Vanguard.
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One question I have is from a post above. Someone was saying that a bullet drops faster in cold weather versus warm weather due to the density of the cold air. Why would the air temperature affect this if gravity is pushing down at a constant?
If you can find a vacuum to shoot in. Your bullet will drop 9.8 meters per second directly straight in front of the direction the barrel was pointed when fired.
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Nontypical Buck
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Bmullin, you haven't been watching this thread long aparently!!!
9.81m/s is pretty accurate even for air, unless you're talking a LONG fall, at which point a terminal velocity might be approached or reached...the fall of a bullet SHOULDN'T be in that category.
Joe D. Check out my last post before this one re: the air density/bullet fall relationship
9.81m/s is pretty accurate even for air, unless you're talking a LONG fall, at which point a terminal velocity might be approached or reached...the fall of a bullet SHOULDN'T be in that category.
Joe D. Check out my last post before this one re: the air density/bullet fall relationship
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Nomercy
I was just trying to answer the one question. I was just saying gravity is independant of everything else. And is constant.
A bullet would actually fall slower in dense air because of resistance. But the trajectory would drop off faster because the velocity would be slowed faster also.
I was just trying to answer the one question. I was just saying gravity is independant of everything else. And is constant.
A bullet would actually fall slower in dense air because of resistance. But the trajectory would drop off faster because the velocity would be slowed faster also.
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Guys, no need for a super computer. Throw this into bernoullis equations in a intregal equation over time for dynamic Bullistic Coef, mix in Newtons third law of motion, throw in more of bernoullis for average turbulance, and your done.
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Audubon & Red Rock, Penna.
or you could buy 300 bullets and 300 targets and set up a target every foot for one hundred yards and trace the point of impact. Either that or try to catch the bullet on film and slow it down.
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When ever I hear someone who is "miss informed" about something (particualrly hunting/shooting) I try to educate them. 1. it will help them out 2. it may stop them from "miss informing" others. Walking away to hit my head against a wall will not do anything posative for anyone.
"A picture is worth a thousand words" really applies to explaining the path of a bullet in this situation.
The line of sight
The line of the barrel
The path of the bullet
drawn on a scrap of paper helps a lot to explain the "bullet rise" and also to show the big advantage a .270 has over a 30/03 when shooting at deer at longer ranges.
Robin
"A picture is worth a thousand words" really applies to explaining the path of a bullet in this situation.
The line of sight
The line of the barrel
The path of the bullet
drawn on a scrap of paper helps a lot to explain the "bullet rise" and also to show the big advantage a .270 has over a 30/03 when shooting at deer at longer ranges.
Robin




