375 Holland & Holland
 

Never fired one with a scope. Assuming 9-10 pounds in a rifle, will 4" eye relief be sufficient? And will the decent scopes (like Leupold) take it?

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

Yes, on all counts
Good luck and have fun, thats one of my favorite cartridges.

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

biscuit jake.... I dont see a problem with that. I have a 416 Rigby that wears a Swarovski, a 378 WBY that wears a Leupold and a 30-378 WBY that also wears a Leupold and dont have any problems with 3 1/2" - 4" of eye relief shooting standing and off a bench rest, I would not however recomend that you shoot the 375 H&H prone or steeply uphill, if you do you might be shaking hands with Mr. Stitches [8D]

doubleA

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

ROFL. Yup. I would not shoot one prone. Actually, after a couple shoulder surgeries, anything in 300 grains or more I zero from the stand position with a heavy duty tripod. But my eyes aren't what they used to be, so I would need glass. Tempting proposition locally on a 375. Certainly, the 375 is not the beating that the 416 Rigby hands out! Glad to hear they work with scopes.

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

I have not shot anything that big and im just curious.. how bad is the 416 rigby recoil say with an average weight gun..compare it to a 6lb .270

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

BJ I have one 375 H&H. From my experience I don't think you'll have a problem.I haven't fired mine in a long time. Many years in fact. Without digging it out I couldn't even tell you what scope I have mounted on it. I shot all my shots off a bench.My only suggestion is hold it tight.First shot I took with it way back I held the rifle really tight. I was amazed that the recoil wasn't what I had expected.Yeah Right. The second shot I relaxed. It about knocked me out of the chair.It is a fine cartridge. A little to much for most of the North American but it's there if you need it.

Ruger Redhawk

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

Ruger-Redhawk, yup it sure would be a bit much for deer and prairie dogs. I would use it for bison cause I eat what I hunt. But that is a long term project. From what I can see the hunts are expensive & I can't strap it on the hood of my compact sedan. Whole family likes the meat, though! So I am scheming.

Never fired a 416 Rigby but one of the local shops is blessed with Ruger Tropical 1H's right now. I think ElkKampMaster has a 416 in a CZ. Maybe he can report on the recoil.

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

Fireblade & Biscuit,

The basic numbers:

270 w/ 130 gr bullets @ 3100 fps and a 6 pound rifle:
20 pounds energy
14 feet per second velocity

Standard 416 Rigby w 400 gr bullets @2400 and a 9 pound rifle
65 pounds energy
21 feet per second velocity

EKM Elk loads:
416 w/ 325 gr bullets @2900 fps and a 9 pound rifle:
77 pounds energy
23 feet per second velocity
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Perceived recoil? Well....

375 HH is a lot more casual (a favorite of mine), 416's (especially with frisky loading) are not to be approached lightly or without preparation IMHO --- not a gallery rifle.

Regarding 270 versus 416 Rigby....
High school football versus the NFL, regarding the hitting that goes on (on both ends).

Rifle fit and technique are critical.

EKM

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

I have a 375 in a win 70 and had it ported, I have no problems now ..

RE: 375 Holland & Holland
 

ELKampMaster ,

Thanks for that info