Best gun for clay sports
07-06-2004 | 07:48 PM
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RE: Best gun for clay sports
ChefMark, that's a pretty broad question, but I will try to answer it.
The best commercial guns are made by Perazzi, Krieghoff, Kolar, Ljutic, Beretta etc.... but are priced where the average person cant afford them. Browning, Remington and Winchester make shotguns that wil last the average hunter/casual shooter a lifetime. There are many small companies that make outstanding guns but a really expensive.
In sporting clays, the O/U and autoloaders are the most popular. In the NSCA there are events for SxS's and pumps and also for the smaller gauges. 12 gauge's and barrels from 28-30 inches rule in the main events. Some folks pick the O/U due to being able to have 2 different chokes. This comes in handy when you are presented 2 totatally different targets ie. a crossing rabbit at 15 yards and a long passing shot. As you already know, in sporting you have alot of different presentations. When you choose to use a single barrel and only have one given choke at a station you can alter it by using different loads, such as spreaders. A normal course will consist of 100 targets. There are variations such as 5 stand sporting and FITASC.
In skeet, you have crossing targets at about 21 yards, a high house and a low house. You shoot from 8 stations in a semi circle. In this discipline, it's the same no matter whereyou shoot it, from Hawaii to New York, it's the same. You can shoot a 12,20,28 and 410 and most shoot all of them in their own catagory. Open chokes are the norm here such as skeet 1 and skeet 2 as are barrels of 26 inches. The shorter barrels swing well on the short crossing targets. Again, O/U's and auto's shine but there are a few that use a pump. Variations include skeet doubles and International skeet.
Then we get to trap where you shoot are going away targets at various angles of up to 22 degrees from the middle station. The height of the targets are the same and the clay will normally fly 50 yards from the trap. In 16 yard trap you have 5 shots at five stations and a round consist of 25 shots. In Handicap you also shoot singles, the better you are the further back you shoot, up to 27 yards. There are also trap doubles in which you shoot pairs from the 16 yard line.
12 gauge and tight chokes dominate this sport. O/U's, single shot's, pumps and automatics are used. Over singles and top singles are the most popular in Handicap and front line while O/U will do for doubles. Automatics are frowned upon among in doubles by serious shooters. The longer barrlels shine here in trap, anywhere from 30-34 inches in lenght. The long barrels tend to have a smooth swing which is needed in trap. Variations are Olympic and bunker trap.
So there you have the most popular disciplines in clay shooting. As you can see each on e is a little different in it's own way. I say this from a competitive view. If you are just a once a month skeet or sporting shooter, any gun will do really. The most important thing with shotgunning is that you need to have a gun that fits you and shoot off of your dominate eye. When I say "fits" I mean by someone that knows gun fit not because it feels right to you. I can not overstate these 2 things enough. Even if you dont shoot competitively your shooting will drastically improve.
doubleA
The best commercial guns are made by Perazzi, Krieghoff, Kolar, Ljutic, Beretta etc.... but are priced where the average person cant afford them. Browning, Remington and Winchester make shotguns that wil last the average hunter/casual shooter a lifetime. There are many small companies that make outstanding guns but a really expensive.
In sporting clays, the O/U and autoloaders are the most popular. In the NSCA there are events for SxS's and pumps and also for the smaller gauges. 12 gauge's and barrels from 28-30 inches rule in the main events. Some folks pick the O/U due to being able to have 2 different chokes. This comes in handy when you are presented 2 totatally different targets ie. a crossing rabbit at 15 yards and a long passing shot. As you already know, in sporting you have alot of different presentations. When you choose to use a single barrel and only have one given choke at a station you can alter it by using different loads, such as spreaders. A normal course will consist of 100 targets. There are variations such as 5 stand sporting and FITASC.
In skeet, you have crossing targets at about 21 yards, a high house and a low house. You shoot from 8 stations in a semi circle. In this discipline, it's the same no matter whereyou shoot it, from Hawaii to New York, it's the same. You can shoot a 12,20,28 and 410 and most shoot all of them in their own catagory. Open chokes are the norm here such as skeet 1 and skeet 2 as are barrels of 26 inches. The shorter barrels swing well on the short crossing targets. Again, O/U's and auto's shine but there are a few that use a pump. Variations include skeet doubles and International skeet.
Then we get to trap where you shoot are going away targets at various angles of up to 22 degrees from the middle station. The height of the targets are the same and the clay will normally fly 50 yards from the trap. In 16 yard trap you have 5 shots at five stations and a round consist of 25 shots. In Handicap you also shoot singles, the better you are the further back you shoot, up to 27 yards. There are also trap doubles in which you shoot pairs from the 16 yard line.
12 gauge and tight chokes dominate this sport. O/U's, single shot's, pumps and automatics are used. Over singles and top singles are the most popular in Handicap and front line while O/U will do for doubles. Automatics are frowned upon among in doubles by serious shooters. The longer barrlels shine here in trap, anywhere from 30-34 inches in lenght. The long barrels tend to have a smooth swing which is needed in trap. Variations are Olympic and bunker trap.
So there you have the most popular disciplines in clay shooting. As you can see each on e is a little different in it's own way. I say this from a competitive view. If you are just a once a month skeet or sporting shooter, any gun will do really. The most important thing with shotgunning is that you need to have a gun that fits you and shoot off of your dominate eye. When I say "fits" I mean by someone that knows gun fit not because it feels right to you. I can not overstate these 2 things enough. Even if you dont shoot competitively your shooting will drastically improve.
doubleA
07-07-2004 | 10:36 AM
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RE: Best gun for clay sports
i have to agree with doubleA re the fit idea.
I've got a remington 11-87 that i bought because it fit my budget, and shoot clays weekly. it had to go back for some work, and i was without it for about 2 months. during that time, my richer friends had me borrowing their berrettas, kriegoffs, brownings, etc and i couldn't hit my own foot. when the 11-87 came back, my scores went up 10-15%. couple weeks later a friend who shoots nationally observed that the 11-87 fit my frame/arm length etc perfectly. guess i got lucky, but i love that gun and shoot well with it.
I've got a remington 11-87 that i bought because it fit my budget, and shoot clays weekly. it had to go back for some work, and i was without it for about 2 months. during that time, my richer friends had me borrowing their berrettas, kriegoffs, brownings, etc and i couldn't hit my own foot. when the 11-87 came back, my scores went up 10-15%. couple weeks later a friend who shoots nationally observed that the 11-87 fit my frame/arm length etc perfectly. guess i got lucky, but i love that gun and shoot well with it.
07-07-2004 | 11:23 AM
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RE: Best gun for clay sports
Any of the shotguns will fit your bill. I shoot clays with a 11-87. I just put on a butt pad to raise my cheek some. A long barrel may be easy to swing with and line up. I think I do as well as anybody with 2000 dollar o/u. Alot of the guys trys to talk me into other guns, but bottom line is I shoot clays for practice for duck, upland game, whatever and want to improve my hunting skills. Alot of those guys do it to compete in skeet/trap for scores. Whatever your reason, gotta pick the gun that will suit this and you pocketbook.
07-09-2004 | 01:52 PM
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RE: Best gun for clay sports
I use a browning Bps pump gun witha 28" barrel but most of the guys over there are useing either a browning citori witha 30" or a barrete semi witha 28" barrel. the citoris shoot high so the take some time to get used to.
