we had a big bear problem here so the local forest rangers came looked around an said i hope they dont get your dogs cause we have 2 outside dogs an the gave us 4 12 gauge rubber buck shot so bout 20 feet away bang shot the bear an it just looked around didnt do one thing to them an it kicked about as mush as my 22 cause im not a 12 gauge fan at all so i never use it but i used it then a not a thing

Ah hered uv um. Ther not fer barz, but kin be uzd. Ther "non-lethal" lodze fur riot control use by tha poleece.[8D]

I've got a buddy that used to break into a junkyard as a kid and push junked cars down a big hill. He can tell you first hand what they're like....LOL

He took a nice load of them in his back one time. Did the trick! He doesn't even like to drive by that junkyard anymore...