They must sell the **** guns down in the states, because up here I' ve only got good things to say really with just about all the rifles, except for the exception of one Remington 30-06.

I guess they ship the best of them up here in Alaska.

oldelkhunter
You sound like you know what you are talking about. I am just tired of buying a rifle that does not shoot like it should out of the box. I must admit I did over react a little on my first two posts. Everything thing I posted before was true. I still ordered a Cooper 6.5 x 284.
I had just gotten back from the range with four rifles. When I was at the range I talked with a friend. We both got pissed about the poor quality control of new firearms. All of my hunting rifles are shooting good. I have spent extra money on them to get them shooting that way. I just feel like the firearms manufactures are cutting too many corners.

I am curious about the trigger job David Gentry did on your model-70? What did he do that made it unsafe???


I would like to thank everyone that took the time to reply.

So does that mean you are not going to be selling all of your " junk" rifles Wolf Killer? Man that' s a bummer, I was getting hyped!


No really.............my offer still stands... 1 rifle@$50 ea.

One man' s junky M700/M70/M77/MK V is another man' s custom platform...AA

doubleA
I think I am going to turn what I can of my own junk into custom platforms for myself. The first one to get wacked is a 270-winchester. The best I can do with this rifle is a 2" -group @100-yards. That' s with factory ammunition or handloads. This rifle is my biggest pain. I have tried finding a handload for this rifle for the past two years enough is enough.

Wolfkiller...as most people know when you slam a bolt home the gun should not fire...that was not the case with my Model 70...enough said. Unfortunately I never returned it to him and mentioned it to him because odds are he never touched it probably someone else in his shop and I am quite a distance from him...but for the prices he charges everything should be " PERFECT" if you get my drift. My buddy has a stainless MOdel 70 270 win with a walnut stock. Could not shoot better than 2" at 100 ...restocked it in a Mcmillan had the trigger done and added a one piece floorplate assembly. Gun still shoots almost exactly the same now it has an odd flyer now and then is the only noticeable change, Only thing can be wrong with that gun IMHO is it has a crap barrel. If he decides to screw another barrel on it he will haves 1500 in it he now has about 1000 in it now with the floorplate and Mcmillan stock...I bought a 700 KS SS 7 rem mag which is great rifle with exception of no floorplate(have to live with that) it cost me 825 dollars thru Gun List...it shoots Federal factory ammo into less than 1 inch... Its not quite a factory rifle but not that far off from 1 either. But I seriously doubt a 3-4000 or more custom can touch that KS especially if i start handloading it.. Now I know a lot of guys say buy Tiika or Sako and that lately has really started to irritate me I have had to hold off for awhile but here it comes. Never owned a Tiika just picked up and handled a T3 and felt it was a nice gun but I am not a plastics lover and it simply won' t work for me . Owned 2 Sakos both the previous version l591 and l691 not the 75 beautifully made great quality 1 was a Fiberclass in 06 and the other was a hunter in 308 both needed tweaking to shoot as from the factory trigger as well as bedding jobs..and because of their stupid recoil lug they are hard as heck to bed and certainly not a job for the casual gunsmith. You can keep the rings also ...they will never match Ruger rings for reliablility and standard dovetail rings for availability . I guess I couldn' t keep them around (Sakos) because every Remington and Ruger I owned out shot them. Go ahead Sako lovers out there flame me but for the price they both cost I didn' t get my moneys worth. So how in the heck can a rifle they make for less than 1/2 the cost be worth anything. Just my 10 dollars worth of opinions.

EVER THINK ITS NOT THE GUN??????????????????

I was thinking the same thing highcountryuser.
Once in awhile a bad one might slip through. Not in the numbers Wolf Killer has gotten.There' s more to the story that we aren' t aware of.Chances are WK will pick apart his custom rifle when he gets it.I' m more then satisfied with my Ruger M-77' s.They might not be the tack driver as I would like but more then sufficent for hunting. Some people would complain if they were getting hung with a new rope.I' ll stick with my standard factory rifles and leave the customs to those who can afford them.
Ruger Redhawk

highcountryuser & Ruger-Redhawk

You guys can keep putting me down if you want to?

I can shoot all of my rifles except for my Ruger Model-77Mk-II just fine. After they get the action bedded, the barrel is free-floated & the trigger gets worked on.

I just think most of the firearms manufactures are not giving us as good of product as they should?
When I save money for a year to buy one firearm, I expect something more for my money.

Ruger-Redhawk
I have a Ruger model-77 300-win mag that I bought 20-years ago. That gun will out shoot any other rifle I own. At the time that I bought the rifle I did not know what a trigger job was? Before I left the shop the store owner had that trigger set at 3-pounds. The owner was a good friend that would not sell me a rifle with a heavy trigger pull. This rifle with my handloads will shoot a honest 5/8" group at 100 yards. This rifle will also shoot most factory ammo in a 1" or better group.

[quote]ORIGINAL: Wolf killer

highcountryuser & Ruger-Redhawk

You guys can keep putting me down if you want to?




Wolf Killer,
I wasn' t putting you down. It just seemed funny (or shameful) how you' ve had all these problems. I' ve had a few rifles and handguns that were substandard.but they were few and far between.You' ve had more then your share of them.Years ago I worked PT at a gun shop with a range. I wish I had a dollar for everyone who claimed the gun was faulty.It turned out in most cases that it was user error.Granted the newer guns aren' t built like ones from decades gone by but by no means could I call them junk.
Ruger Redhawk

Ruger-Redhawk
What I am saying is I should not have to buy a new gun from a dealer & take it straight to a gunsmith. He does a trigger job, free floats the barrel & beds the action. After all this is done I finally have a rifle that shoots.

I almost feel like I am buying a brand new car off of the showroom floor that needs new tires, new shocks & wiper blades.