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Old 11-15-2003 | 10:37 PM
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Yep sako or browning the savages shoot good but i' ve had rough actions etc and it looked like I fitted them.
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Old 11-16-2003 | 04:45 AM
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Old 11-16-2003 | 09:02 AM
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Old 11-18-2003 | 12:12 PM
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I guess I' m doing pretty good with my 1" 5 shot groups @ 100 with my 1903 Springfield?

Can' t use custom loads out of it or I might even get better groups. (Too much head space with the thousands of rounds that have been fired through it.)

Just this year I had the stock checked for proper floating and had it glass bedded. The original trigger honed and sear shortened because of the creap.

Next is a new barrel then custom loads here I come. I bet with this 98 year old gun I could keep up with the best of those mass produced rifles.

I' m just particular on those older antiques.

Oh and my .270 Savage 110 it shoots ok with the custom loads that were built for it.

I' ve been thinking of putting them aside and having Match Grade Arms build me an Ultra Lite

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Old 11-24-2003 | 08:00 AM
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In my expereince most rifles take a bit of playing to accurize them. Little adjustments make a big difference at the range. Ammo selection really seems to make a difference as well. Not all rifles like to shoot all bullets in thier caliber. You have to find what your rifle likes to shoot.

I went on a major research kick a couple of years ago to find a new versitile rifle. I was not sold on many low cost/quality brands - I just didn' t like the feels of them. I looked at everything I could find except custom shops since they were out of my price range. I found a Tika that I liked but did not buy it because it did not " feel" quite like a Sako. Many trips to gun shows and gun shops later, I found a Kongsberg Rifle - Norwegan made - a bit cheaper model of the Lakelander (Swedish made). The inventor or the action and magazine won an engineering award at the worlds fair in the 1980' s for it - he also used some " space shuttle" coating in the bore that was supposed to quickly dissapate heat - on the Lakelander model only. It was written up in Guns & Ammo and Rifle Shooter - It is a good combination of look and feel. I do not have that model so I can' t attest to it but it sure sounded good. Long story shorter...I have done nothing to the rifle except play with bullet manufacturers and adjust the trigger from about 6lbs down to about 2 (fully adjustable and the barrel and action are floated and bedded) and it shoots sub 1 MOA if the operator can get his act together.

You can find them on the auction sites if you have an interest.

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Old 11-24-2003 | 05:52 PM
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hey oldelkhunter,

I like to hang with those guys with the 40 year old rifles and scopes, especially if they' ve owned them that long. figure I can learn somethin'
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Old 11-26-2003 | 04:48 AM
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Tikka ,Sako ,and Browning are the best out there.
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