Come on Biggun...

Have your cake and eat it too....

We sure make a big deal out of 8 oz. Heck, if I emptied out all the gear, shells, etc out of my pockets I'd save 3-4 lbs...lol

YEA BORCH, I WYPED THE ICING OFF MY CHIN AND WEIGHED MY RIFLE ONE TIME AND I THINK IT WAS 48 OR 49LBS.

CERTIFIED GUN NUT--

I am at the point that when I see anything about a short magnum, I skip over it.

I think I'll wait to see which maker's cartridges will be around 2-3 years from now and after some real information circulates as to thier performance. THEN I'll make my decicion. If one of the 6.5, 270 or 7mm variants survive and lives up to it's rep. I,d pick one of those. Note the 6.5 is a wildcat or at least for now. Probably build a heavy barrel varmint splatter if a factory version ain't available by then.

Borch, I know what you mean about weight. I bet my fanny pack weighs 9 pounds.

Guys, I'm over 50 and my magnum is just a little younger than me. It's an old model 70 in 300H&H and any animal that I might ever shoot with it will not be able to tell the difference between it and a 300wm or a 300wsm. The only thing I can see justifies the short mag is the overall weight of the rifle. I don't know if saving toting two extra pounds is worth the butt kicking recoil you're gonna get with the short mags. Of course I don't think I'll ever get to go moose hunting in the rockies or such and if I could afford to run with a crowd who could, well, I might just have to get one to save face.

I'm sick of it too!! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>