Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
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RE: Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
Muzzleloading Deer Seasons
During the December muzzleloading seasons, muzzleloading deer hunters can carry afield and use only a muzzleloading rifle, a muzzleloading shotgun, or a black powder handgun loaded with black powder or a commercially manufactured black powder substitute.
Troy, I have wondered this myself. The way the guide states it, no. It would be legal to use during regular firearms season (in the rifle zone not shotgun), just not muzzleloader season.
During the December muzzleloading seasons, muzzleloading deer hunters can carry afield and use only a muzzleloading rifle, a muzzleloading shotgun, or a black powder handgun loaded with black powder or a commercially manufactured black powder substitute.
Troy, I have wondered this myself. The way the guide states it, no. It would be legal to use during regular firearms season (in the rifle zone not shotgun), just not muzzleloader season.
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RE: Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
Some people debate that "commercially manufactured black powder substitute" includes smokeless powder as it is being used in place of black powder in the rifle. I think this is a very simplistic argument that will not get you very far if you actually went to court with it. The intent of the statute is that a substitute is something equivalent performance-wise, which smokeless is not. This vaguary is why many states have changed their language to exclude "nitrocellulose-based propellants".
If you call the MI DNR they WILL tell you that the Savage is not legal to hunt with when shooting smokeless, though you could use any BP sub in it legally.
If you call the MI DNR they WILL tell you that the Savage is not legal to hunt with when shooting smokeless, though you could use any BP sub in it legally.
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RE: Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
Yes, as long as it is not loaded with smokeless powder. The guy at my local gun store actually uses one. The rub is that when you buy it you have to buy it as a firearm which means you need to do the background check. Where with a regular muzzle loader you could just pay for it and walk out.
Paul
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RE: Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
As was said, they ARE legal as long as they are loaded with blk. powder...
My brother has shot numerous deer with his, also several coyotes and a bobcat or two.
DM
My brother has shot numerous deer with his, also several coyotes and a bobcat or two.
DM
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RE: Is the Savage M10 smokeless muzzleloader legal in Michigan
ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr
Yes, as long as it is not loaded with smokeless powder. The guy at my local gun store actually uses one. The rub is that when you buy it you have to buy it as a firearm which means you need to do the background check. Where with a regular muzzle loader you could just pay for it and walk out.
Paul
Yes, as long as it is not loaded with smokeless powder. The guy at my local gun store actually uses one. The rub is that when you buy it you have to buy it as a firearm which means you need to do the background check. Where with a regular muzzle loader you could just pay for it and walk out.
Paul
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