Thanks bulzeye. I like the p40 for its slimness and light wieght. I have two sigs, a p220 (.45) and a p229 (.40) which I really like, but both are a little too bulky and heavy to carry every day due to the light clothing that I wear most of the time here in Florida. Ive looked at the glocks many times but they just don't fit me well and the 27 isn't much slimmer than the two that I have. Yes, it is lighter and shorter than my sigs but it is not slimmer than the p40. I wish glock would make a pistol that fit me because I like most of the glocks attributes. The few extra rounds are nice to have if needed but a gun doesn't do me any good if it's not on my person when needed due to the fact that it's too uncomfortable to carry. I'm a firm believer in the fact that any gun is better than no gun when a gun is needed. With that said, I'm willing to give up a few extra rounds in order to carry something more comfortable.
Thanks.

CAM2,

Well said.

I don't get to carry concealed up here in Illinois where guns are considered "evil".

I only have one small gun, a .45 single stack ported Springfield V-10 ultra-compact.
Since I can't carry, everything else I own is full-size.(with lots of bullets<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

In a warm climate, with thin, lightweight clothes, I'm sure I would choose something similar to a Kahr.

Keep 'em all in the Bull.

Edited by - bulzeye on 01/28/2002 12:27:30

So, Razorhunter...
What purpose would your new handgun serve primarily? Of course, you will want several to play with I'm sure.

Keep 'em all in the Bull.

Bulzeye,
Sorry it took so long to reply. I am very excited to see how knowledgeable you are with handguns. Maybe I will have your knowledge some day.
As for the primary function, I cannot say for sure. It will definitely serve the purpose of home protection. I don't want to get up in the middle of the night and grab my Mossber 590. I want to grab a handgun and go. Know what I mean?
I will also be doing a lot of practice with the gun to just downright practice my shooting. I have always been a good shot, but since I haven't owned a pistol in years, I have some practicing to do. I just recently obtained some hunting property right up the street from my house, so I will be able to shoot all I want.
As for concealed carry, that is really not an issue yet. I currently don't have a CCW, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to get one. To be honest, I don't know if I qualify. I was once on a felony probation from a pain pill charge. One of my buddies girlfriends threw some prescription pain medication under the floormat of my truck, when I got pulled over for speeding. Needless to say, I took a first offenders act, and served probation. I have my rights back now, and I'm NOT a convicted felon, i.e. the first offenders act. I have actually been on a gun forum trying to ask the members if they knew if I qualified for a CCW. But that's another topic in itself.
Finally, I have been seriously looking at the Sig's. They just seem to be quality. I haven't ruled out HK's though. I am considering either a .357, 40, or 45. I just wish I had a little more knowledge of which caliber is more accurate, which is flatter shooting with what loads, etc. You know, all the interesting techie stuff? Hey, thanks again for any responses.

&quot;Finally, I have been seriously looking at the Sig's. They just seem to be quality. I haven't ruled out HK's though. &quot;

The Sig models are well known for accuracy and reliability. Although I personally prefer pistols with a cocked-and-locked capability such as the Govt Model (don't rule out a Kimber Compact if you are not uncomfortable with a single action), the HK USP series, or even a Taurus auto.

Bulzeye; I have a question for you , since you seem to be an expert. My next toy ,and possibly my carry choice ,I have been looking at the Magnum Research Baby Eagle .45acp decocker.It realy fits my hand like a glove , and has a 10 rnd mag. Whats your input on this weapon?

The best way to get info is to read the gun mags. The best way to learn is to buy them and shoot. Just say you are buying the guns for research.

SOTHRDNK

Bulzeye, I bought the kahr p40 yesterday at a local gun show. The more I handle the gun the more I like it. Although I haven't shot it yet i'm glad that I bought it. You are right about the trigger pull. I've been useing snap caps in order to get a feel for the trigger and I'm impressed it's better than I thought it would be.

I get most of my info, if you care, from reading many gun mags cover-to-cover, talking to cops about what they carry, and then shooting anything I can get my hands on at the range. It seems that most people who enjoy shooting also enjoy talking about it too. Most of them just don't write PAGES on their bbs forums like I guess I do.

Anyway...

CAM2: Congrats on your new P40! I handled one again, since you mentioned it, and they really are sweet. You could stash that little baby just about anywhere, couldn't ya?


RAZORHUNTER: Gald to hear you intend to practice intensly. It's an aspect of preparation too many people underestimate. Sorry to hear about your bad experience, but even Illinois will grant a FOID card (Firearm Owner Identification) to people to HAVE felony convictions, as long as the crime was non-violent. I don't think you'll have a problem, but I'm no expert on Florida law. Apply. The worst that can happen is that you get turned down.

Now, selecting a gun...
Obviously, from the 3 calibers you mentioned, you want a semi-auto. All three are good choices. Don't worry about making a bad choice. If you are not interested in concealing the gun, that simplifies things. Choose a large framed gun. The bigger and heavier it is, the more recoil it will absorb allowing faster and easier follow up shots. &quot;Anyone worth shooting is worth shooting twice.&quot;

At the ranges at which defencive shootouts occur, the flatness of the trajectory will be of negligible importance. However, if that's what you like, the .357sig takes the cake, but there is not much data yet regarding it actual effectiveness in shootouts. It is expected to be good, but theory is sometimes different than practical application. The Indiana state police use the .357sig are are very happy with it. By the way, the .357 sig was engineered to duplicate the external balistics of the .357magnum revolver round, which is famous for its dramatic stopping power.

The 10mm is very flat shooting too, but it has some stout recoil. So much kick in fact that the FBI stopped using it, in part, because their agents found it difficult to qualify with.

more later...









Keep 'em all in the Bull.

Thanks Bulzeye, good info. By the way, I am not a convicted felon, but because of the story above, I did have to serve a felony probation sentence. It is over now, and I have my rights to own a gun back.