balde

hello all,
i have a 30.06 belgium bar that since i took it all apart and cleaned it good, i cant get decent groups with it!! when i first got it i shot coverleafs at 100yrds, and now its all over the place!4"groups i checked thescope good and all is tight.then someone mentioned to me about the nut that holds the forarm on and that it has to be set at a certain pound of torque,but he wasnt sure what that was. can anyone help me out or is the anything else that i could try?
Thanks!!

oldelkhunter

That nut that holds the foreend on does not need to be set at some specific torque. It just has to be screwed on tight. ARe you sure you have the recoil buffer in the right place as per the owners manual. WHat kind of cleaning did you do?

balde

dont have a manual! and i just took apart all but the bolt assembly sprayed it all down with gunscrubber and wiped it then lightly oiled it and reassembled it. while back i had to get a new scope as the one on it went bad. took it out and shot a couple boxes thought it figured out scope was junk, so i got a replacement, and sighted in best i could, but no good groups.it just aint been the same since then!!! maybe its shot out and time to buy a new!!

oldelkhunter

Is this the early BAR where you have to remove the buttstock in order to remove the trigger group? if so is the buttstock properly tightened ? Unless you never cleaned the barrel and shot it thousands of times I doubt you can shoot out that barrel.

balde

i believe it was made in the early 70's the serial # is 703xx spaceM9 and yes the trigger slides out after you take off stock. when i took it apart i also scrubbed the bore witha used copper brush and rod along with the gunscrubber and the butt is on good and tight.also i use a bore snake after everyfew or halfdozenshots now.was shootin remington corelokt 150g when i first got it but seem to have been gettin better groups from the winchester 150g power point. ya cheap bullets but few years back i got consistant cloverleafand at worst1" groups on the remingtons unless they changed the formula i dont see why this gun doesnt like them anymore. where could i get a manual for it?

mauser06

sounds like the problem started with the scope...not the cleaning??

check the rings and bases to make sure they are all tight...

what kind/make/model scope?? could just be a crap scope that wont hold zero...


if im reading the post right, once you put the new scope on you havent been able to group correct? thats how im readinging it....either a junk scope or rings/bases are loose

balde

well, the scope is a elite3200 4x12x40ao w/bdc and the take apart was dont just before the new scope got put on.at 200yrds 10" groupsand i thought the same that maybe it was loose so i removed it and reinstalled it but before i did i figured the scope was of might as well take it apart and clean it best i could! now my marlin 336cs with a 4x leupold gets better groups at both 100 and 200yrds and that will be my killin gun till i figure this one out or buy a bolt action!

oldelkhunter

If the gun is assembled correctly and it is pretty hard to assemble one of these incorrectly even if one tried. It is one of 2 things ....the bore or the scope...semi-autos you have to be careful with crown when you clean them a few nicks and the accuracy goes out the window. The other variable is the scope and I think that might be your problem . Put another scope on the gun that you know works well and try that. I had the same thing happen a few years back I had a custom Model 70 300 win mag that would shoot tiny little groups. I took it home from the range and gave it a good cleaning on the Outers Foul out III since it had a bit of copper in the bore. Back at the range and it shot terribly. I thought it was the cleaning job I did but in the end it was a Blurris scope that went @@@ up. I just put another scope on it and it was back to normal. I haven't touched a Blurris since