You see thats my problem, I like Tikka's And my family is a big browning family and i like Brownings but just dont no witch one to pick because i dont want a synthetic stalk becasue then i no it's gonna kick more so im leaning twords laminated or just wood becasue alot of people say that the A-Bolt Composite Stalker and The A-bolt Stainless stalker have more recoil on acount that there synthetic but i don't know has anyone shot a browning a-bolt in synthetic in 300 WSM ???

The browning a-bolt stocks has only 5/8" drop at comb and 1/2" at heel of stocks-regardless which model you choose so a straighter stock will appear to kick less as opposed to a more "crooked" stock that willproduce more felt recoil. Ifyou want a sythetic stock browning-go for it. ItWON'T hurt you in any way-just makeSURE you put a good scope on it with plenty of eye relief. BTW,the brownings come from factory glass bedded.

How much work does an abolt need out of the box in your experience???

I mean after all a portion of your income or business isgetting off the rack rifles to shoot...is it not??? I find it a little contradictory a gunsmith is makingstatements that out of the box accuracy or very little tweaking....she's down the road. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you...NO???

For the record I never saidI don't expect accuracy from my rifles, I merely said I haven't seen all of these out of box and off the shelf MOA or sub MOA shooters. I mentioned I have one rifle that consistently shoots sub MOA with off the shelf ammo.Most others I have shoot moa or better consistently as well though they have either been tweaked and/or usehandloads. I only buy off the shelf rimfire and shotshells, everything else I develop/tailorhandloads to get the best out of the rifle.BTW I have seen factory mo turn in MOA or better results, though not consistently. When I say my rifle isx" MOA that is the ave - taking in account all (good and bad) groups not just the best ones.

Ox if you want a Browning Stalker and it fits you- buy one!!!!Maybe have a gunsmith install a grind to fit recoil pad, that way if you need it shortened for length of pull your set. However if your long armed and a pre-fit will work that is certainly a viableoption to help ease felt recoil. Then have dad's buddy download it if need be to reduce free recoil until your able to handle it full power. Buying a heavier gun on the sole purpose of reducing recoil is flawed thinking, it must still fit, feel good and you must be able to handle/use it. At 13 you should be more concerned with finding a rifle that feels good in your paws, on shoulder, etc instead of concentrating so heavily on therecoil. I may be miles off but I think your scared of recoil since being knocked on your can with that 300wm BAR and IMHO your looking for the wrong answer here. Is it possiblevia Dad, his buddy, your pals, etcthat you can get behind a few different cartridges (maybe a 300wsm which you seem to want) to set your mind at ease or find answers to what you can handle and shoot???Hateto see you pick one for the wrong reasons and effect your enjopyment of this great sport. Good Luck

Actually most of my business is building custom rifles and I get PLENTY of work! When I talk about most rifles needing tweaking,I'll give you an example of my "accuracy" package on factory rifles-glass bedding(brownings come that way factory),hand lap bolt for lugs and smoothness(browning bolts are smooth out of box),free floating barrel(again browning rifles come that way factory),trigger job(brownings need only adjusted,as well as cz,remington,and savage),working up load-all are same except for browning boss,which is simple adjustment,and finally,the only bad thing about browning a-bolts is the safety needs to be modified(which is ridiclously easy to do)in order for bolt to be opened while on safety. I'm never lacking for work so that if I can help people help themselves-it cuts down on my backlog so that I can do the work I love,which is building complete rifles.





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How much work does an abolt need out of the box in your experience???

I mean after all a portion of your income or business isgetting off the rack rifles to shoot...is it not??? I find it a little contradictory a gunsmith is makingstatements that out of the box accuracy or very little tweaking....she's down the road. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you...NO???

The Tikka secret formula to accuracy is a very stiff receiver that is that way because of that tiny ejector hole, the barrels are excellent hammerforged barrels that are screwed on right and headspaced correctly and crowned. Someone shoots them 3 times and they do an inch or they go back to find out what happened.I have heard of them not shooting well and for awhile there I was going to buy one but after seeing how many corners they cut on a gun that should be priced a lot cheaper I said no way. Then you hear the crap about polymers and such. I wouldn't buy the darn gun if it had bottom metal and a metal magazine and bolt shroud because of that tiny ejector port. It is even smaller then the one I had on a Steyr Prohunter I owned and I thought that was unsatisfactory. Problem with the article is it is right on the money andT3 owners do not like to hear the truth at times.Beretta has done a good job of passing out the Koolaid and evidently a lot of people bought into it.

Dollar for dollar you cant beat a Browning



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That's a matter of opinion!!

It may be his opninion, but its very factual....[8D]

Ok Would a Browning Composite stalker be good???