I didn't see this post when I posted mine. Here's a link to the remington site where it shows a .204, .223, 22-250, and .308. I don't know about the R-15 VTR, but I was looking at the 700 VTR. What's the difference?

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...el_700_vtr.asp

I need to look before I ask a dumb question. Here's the R-15

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...l_r-15_VTR.asp

BIG DIFFERENCE!!! DUH

SInce Remington makes hammer forged rifle barrels and then would have to machine the barrel to its' triangular shape I would imagine a lot of stress would remain in the barrel steel causing inconsisent POI unless they make the barrel contour first and then button rifle and stress relieve it or cut rifle it( I really doubt they do cut rifling).

Just brought a 700 VTR in .223 home today. Been a lot of talk/interest about this rig on several different boards. I know that these rigs will shoot as a friend of mine is getting sub moa groups at 100 yards with "el cheapo" 55 gr Winchester "Wal Mart specials". Not to mention shooting 5 shot strings hovering around 1 1/2 inches at 200 yards!

A lot of discussion about the integral break on the rifles as well. It does make the rifle somewhat louder but in return alleviates all dust printing out front of the muzzle. Makes the little .223 nudge straight back into your shoulder with no muzzle rise as well. Having carried bolt guns for a living (and still do),I can tell you that in shooting my friends I have fallen in love with his. That prompted me to take my own home.

As for the 1-9 twist barrels, as in the AR's, they will handle down to the 52 gr. well and absolutey shine with the 68-69 gr BTHP Match bullets. I have a scad of .223 loaded with 68 gr. Hornady BTHP's and given a break in the weather will head to our departmental range to break in the new barrel. Stay tuned for range report! Afterwards, gonna head out and try to dust a 'yote or 2 with her!

FYI, Remington is offering the VTR in .223, .204, .22/250 and .308. The latter of which will take the aftermarket HS magazine conversion kits for those that want a mag fed .308. These rifles are gaining a lot of notice in the law enforcement world as well for a cheaper alternative to the 700 PSS/700 XCRand looks to give the 700 SPS Tactical a run for the money.

Again, stay tuned for further "from the bench"!

Dawg Dustr out!

A gal I in my department was working on vehicle antenias the simple stiff wire type. They had resonate issues at some hwy speeds. She simply spirel wrapped a wire around the antena and silver soddered it. Wala changed its haronics and no more vibrations at hwy speeds. Same with the triangle barrel it will vibrate but not at bullet induced frequincies or at lest not as much.

Purchased a VTR in 223 approx. 2 mo. ago. Glass is a Monarch 5-20 x 44 SF. Burned in the barrel with FMJ 55 gn Blazer factory, and then worked up several good hand loads. Itreally likesthe Hornedy V-Max in 60gr. with 22.5 grn of Data 68, Sierra Blitz Kings 55gr with 25.5 grn of Varget, and Nosler BallisticTip btails with 24.0 grn Data 68. All three loads print1/2 MOAs and the V-Maxs and Noslers are explosive on chucks and yotes.

i have one i .308 its is my new hog gun i love it here are the results

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm222/sbk357/boar001.jpg

triangular barrel? says its fluted....assume it to be round?

Pretty certain a circle is stronger than a triangle too.

the outer surface of a ring (circle) if made of solid material, will resist flex better than the flat sides or the outer surface of a triangular shape.

however, for the purposes of a rifle barrel avoiding flexing or oscillating, a circular tube will flex more easily in the middle of its shaft than a triangular one.

in other words, if you extended the circular and triangular barrels to 10 feet long, but otherwise kept them the same weight and material, the circular one would sag in the middle more than the triangular one, at any point of rotation.