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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
i did not know it was legel sorry if i came out to say it was unethical to shoo a turkey ith a rifle got to say as ithink about it in ky my first and second yer i thought about it butit was illlegel there
if it is legel and you feel confident in it go right ahead ORIGINAL: Swampdog Bigtime ,It in not ilegal to kill a turkey in Va. duting deer season (if turkey is in at the time) but it is not a good practice the bullets tend to blow bone splinters through the meat and ruining the bird.30 yards at the base of the throat had enough comfort level for me to take the shot just like any shot it should be what you feel comfortable with.I try to limit my B/P shot to 150 yards max but some times I might strech it a bit.I don't have a reange finder anymore after the break-in.Thats why I said steps in my first post.I buy the best equipment I can afford or I save my money untill I can.Thats why I bought the Encore.I don't know how some of you feel but I think it's kinda like bow hunting if you are also a gun hunter.There you are witha string and a stick about 100 yards away there stands bullwinkle. might as well pick up a rock but in your mind you know that if you had your rifle he would be yours not a good feeling .The same goes with the old side locks .extending your limits are increasing your odds not diminishing your prowess as a hunter.Now this is just my opinion I believe that the majority of shots rangeare determined by where you are hunting,what you are hunting, and how good of a hunter you are.Where I live I might have a 20 yard shot or I could have a 400 yard shot.I WILL have the equipment to have the confidence to take either shot if I feel so.Some people on this board live in places where a 300 yard shot might be as close as they can get.Let's see some of these mega hunters walk right up face to face with a 'lope and blast his ass.I am not trying to be critical well yes I am.Some of us have been around here for a pretty good while. Everything usually goes smooth.Most of the time when we have problems is when some noob pops up and spurts out some load of crap to stir things up.Sorry about getting iff of the original post.But this gets trying after a while.If you can hit consistant with a B/P at 200 shoot the dang thing 200.If you can't shoot it at 50 put it up.;)Ya'll make me mad and I' start up caliber of the week again.............. 
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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
i also feelthat if i have a bow wich i do and a gun which i do i will go with the gun during gun season i lovebow hunting but i hunt for the love of the meat an the love of the game but it is alot more fun if i am eatting back straps
got my bow for under 50 yards i wonted the shotgun for both deer and turkey i got it now i wont the muzzleloader to get the extra three weeks with a gun ad the extra 10 yards out there I think in 08 my dad will hunt with me for the first time since my first hunt 4 yearsago i plan to get himhooked which would mean one more person buying stands blinds and he would be more open to buying land that is in the middle of no where then in town he i like me he does not like sitting somewhere for hours for nothing so i will get him the best weapon i can so he an get his first kill hopefully alot quick then it is taken me ORIGINAL: Swampdog Bigtime ,It in not ilegal to kill a turkey in Va. duting deer season (if turkey is in at the time) but it is not a good practice the bullets tend to blow bone splinters through the meat and ruining the bird.30 yards at the base of the throat had enough comfort level for me to take the shot just like any shot it should be what you feel comfortable with.I try to limit my B/P shot to 150 yards max but some times I might strech it a bit.I don't have a reange finder anymore after the break-in.Thats why I said steps in my first post.I buy the best equipment I can afford or I save my money untill I can.Thats why I bought the Encore.I don't know how some of you feel but I think it's kinda like bow hunting if you are also a gun hunter.There you are witha string and a stick about 100 yards away there stands bullwinkle. might as well pick up a rock but in your mind you know that if you had your rifle he would be yours not a good feeling .The same goes with the old side locks .extending your limits are increasing your odds not diminishing your prowess as a hunter.Now this is just my opinion I believe that the majority of shots rangeare determined by where you are hunting,what you are hunting, and how good of a hunter you are.Where I live I might have a 20 yard shot or I could have a 400 yard shot.I WILL have the equipment to have the confidence to take either shot if I feel so.Some people on this board live in places where a 300 yard shot might be as close as they can get.Let's see some of these mega hunters walk right up face to face with a 'lope and blast his ass.I am not trying to be critical well yes I am.Some of us have been around here for a pretty good while. Everything usually goes smooth.Most of the time when we have problems is when some noob pops up and spurts out some load of crap to stir things up.Sorry about getting iff of the original post.But this gets trying after a while.If you can hit consistant with a B/P at 200 shoot the dang thing 200.If you can't shoot it at 50 put it up.;)Ya'll make me mad and I' start up caliber of the week again..............
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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
"Opinion, not fact. Anecdotal evidence actually suggests the opposite. A compound bow is "technically" more advanced than a spear.I choose to use a compound over a spear because I am certain it will enhance the hunting experience by making it at least somewhat possible for me to ethically kill a deer. So there is just one example that contradicts your ignorant statement."
So the goal of your hunting experience is to increase your kill ratio? So a hunting experience where you kill something is 'enhanced' over one on which no killing was done? If you doubt that increasing the kill ratio is the prime motive (OTHER THAN PROFIT) behind most 'new' hunting gear, then just watch some of the cable hunting shows, or pick up a magazine and look at them honestly. As far as my 3rd grade education, there are plenty of letters after my name that say the opposite. If you shoose to make jokes as to which ones they are feel free, if you feel that makes you a better person. _Howard |
RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
Ok, so you don't choose to use a longbow as I do, but like the advantages of a smokepole, and its much enhanced range, does that mean you do not know what hunting is about? And because others on the traditional forums, only uses handmade cain arrows, with sinew strings on hickory bows they made by hand, that I do not know what hunting is all about? Or others use atlatl for huntin.So theyare the only ones that know what huntinis about? If your really an educated man, your not showing it by any means.
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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
ORIGINAL: HowardRoark So the goal of your hunting experience is to increase your kill ratio? So a hunting experience where you kill something is 'enhanced' over one on which no killing was done? If you doubt that increasing the kill ratio is the prime motive behind most 'new' hunting gear, then just watch some of the cable hunting shows, or pick up a magazine and look at them honestly. The motive behind the USE of "new" hunting gear is variable and dependent on the user. We all use our equipment for a variety of different reasons. And since I am not on a cable show nor a writer for a magazine, this argument doesn't really apply to me or most others on this forum. Since I am an independent user of hunting equipment, and sinceIlack cable TV in my home, the cable shows and magazines have no impact. As far as my 3rd grade education, there are plenty of letters after my name that say the opposite. If you shoose to make jokes as to which ones they are feel free, if you feel that makes you a better person. _Howard |
RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
Bigtime no offense taken I might not of worded it right .I just think when it comes to hunting of any kind try to be the best you can and give the animal the respect of a clean quick kill.
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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
OK Then like I said before in the begining of this post,I site in at 75yrds open/Iron sites due to the fact I hunt heavy woodsfor thos who care.........to tell you the truth I just jump out of the tree and grab the neck of the deerand break it who need weapons......I suppose thats not primitive enough for some.O-ya I wear a thong made out of the rabbit I ran down in my bear feet and for cover scent I wear deerdung how about that.........Bear season is a little tuffer.......so there.....
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RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
so what hunting gear do you use are you telling me that every little piece of you gear is not to increase you chances of a kill
camo is use to hide our shape so we can get a deer close and kill it do you use camo scent control do you use cent control it i there so our scent does not spook the game so we can kill it let not fool our selfs we hunt to kill a deer or turkey or a rabbit whatever it is if your not there to kill something why do you carry a weapon all gear all weapon be it a stick and rock or a 1 mile shot sniper rifle there there to kill things when you go hunting with out a weapon let me know because when you hunt with a weapon of any kind your there to kill something no different it would be like you training to kill people training to shoot guns training incombat tactics andsaying you do not wont to go to war because you do not wont to kill someoneand you not training to kill people ORIGINAL: HowardRoark "Opinion, not fact. Anecdotal evidence actually suggests the opposite. A compound bow is "technically" more advanced than a spear.I choose to use a compound over a spear because I am certain it will enhance the hunting experience by making it at least somewhat possible for me to ethically kill a deer. So there is just one example that contradicts your ignorant statement." So the goal of your hunting experience is to increase your kill ratio? So a hunting experience where you kill something is 'enhanced' over one on which no killing was done? If you doubt that increasing the kill ratio is the prime motive (OTHER THAN PROFIT) behind most 'new' hunting gear, then just watch some of the cable hunting shows, or pick up a magazine and look at them honestly. As far as my 3rd grade education, there are plenty of letters after my name that say the opposite. If you shoose to make jokes as to which ones they are feel free, if you feel that makes you a better person. _Howard |
RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
i think i might have been alittle hard on you i might or properlty would take the shot with a rifle i just meet that i thought it was iilegel i did not think it was legel were you are i am sorry and i tip my hat that your good enough to pop it's head off
ORIGINAL: Swampdog Bigtime no offense taken I might not of worded it right .I just think when it comes to hunting of any kind try to be the best you can and give the animal the respect of a clean quick kill. |
RE: how fardo you shoot a muzzleloader
A muzzleloader is capable of clean kills as far away as the rifle and shooter is capable of hitting. Now mind you, this is the internet, and when most people claim that they made 200 yard shots it was more likely to be much closer to 60 yards than 200:D
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