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hey what about using a rock and stick like the caveman did

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I think most of us on this page knows who is flatulating out of our mouth at this point. Thanks for confirming it for us what you are or are not.

Va, you just don't get it. People hunts with whatever for different reasons. Just because they don't do it your way, sure doesn't mean its wrong or they don't know what hunting is all about. In my opinion, you really don't know. I use all weapons because I like my tools. And I like using em. I havent' killed a deer with a centerfire for 3 years now. But thats my choice. We are all searching for that feeling we had when we killed our first deer. That amazing high and feel of satisfaction. If you have use a hickory bow, or a savage smokeless ML or a 300weatherby to get that feeling, go for it.

Myself, its everything, and you can't take one piece out to know whathunting is about. Its about patterning in the summer, scouting for 2-10X the time of hunting, its aboutpatience for days, and waiting for the shot, thegutting, the dragging, theskinning and processingand trying different recipies. Thats what its about for me. All of your posts up to this point seems like you are very insecure, and need a feeling of special. Thats just one persons take.

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Isn't the freedom of choice great? We all have the right to choose and voice our opinions. I am thankful to have the freedom to voice my opinions and the right to make my owndecisions. Bigcountry, I agree with your statement. It is our choice to choose which type of weapon we use for hunting, that brings us satisfaction and the sense of accomplishment. It is the mentality of such people that believe that everyone should conform to there lifestyle and beliefs, that I took an oath todefend our Nation against wheither they are foreign or domestic. I surely will not agree with everyone and I don't expect everyone to agree with me. VA, I do believe you need to expandyour vocabulary, as the use of vain and profain words are a sure sign of ignorance. The fact is that this thread had nothing to do with which weapon is your weapon of choice. It was how far do you shoot a muzzleloader. It is funny how these threads getside tracked by some narrow minded people jumping to there own conclusions. Now, with that said, I will get back on track. The distance a person shoots a muzzle loader is based on each person's personal limits. Everyone gets caught up in the ballistics game. However, most of the modern in-line's are shooting a higher velocity than the 45/70 Gov't. Not that I am advocating long range shots. It is a persons ability and the load of the weapon that comes into play. We as hunters need to adhere toa self imposed limit and hunt ethically. It is funny how hunters will argue amongst each other and only add fuel to the fire, for the tree huggers and animal rights activist. We as hunters should pick our fights intelligently and stand together against those who want to infringe upon our rights. For the animal rights activists, it is divide and conquer and by the looks at most of the forum's we are playing into there strategy. Choose a weapon and enjoy hunting, but don't condemn someone else because they don't agree with you. Enjoy hunting and your feedom.

"Fighting for Liberty and dieing for Freedom"

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thanks for your info guys

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You guys are funny.......

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sight my .45 dead on @100 yards, 4" low @ 150 and 9" low @ 200yards.

As for dropping like rocks at longer distances, Thats true if you are using a heavy bullet.

I use a 225 grain powerbelt over 80 grains pyrodex P.

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I must say after reading this whole post about the only one who does get it is vabyrd. The desire to get techinally better gear is not to enhance the hunting experience for the average hunter; it is to increase the kill ratio, period. People, defining themselves internally by external measures (in many hunters' cases antlers, record books, bragging rights etc..) have always sought to increase their 'sucess' (as measure by others) so that they develop new ways in which to compete against the others whose approval they seek. The idea of a muzzleloading season was to allow those Luddites who preferred to use, or thought there was challenge in using 'traditional' black powder weapons to hunt. (In order to understand what was considered 'traditional' black powder, it would be necessary to compare the muzzleloading weapons existant at the time such season was created.) In general (like archery) this equated a much shorter hunting range and therefore more skill was needed to kill game. Now, hunters (in actuality, people desiring to sell hunters products) have invented 'muzzleloaders' that are as capable of accuracy and have the range of many modern rifles. This is counter to why a muzzleloading season was created and futher proof that many hunters, hiding behind the translucent veil of the 'letter of the law' in regards to what legally constitutes a muzzleloader, seek to not endure more challenge in hunting by limiting their effective range (note I did not say lethality, accuracy, effectiveness), rather to increase their 'success' in the form of more kills, which provide only meager and temporary sustenance for their insecurities.

_Howard

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Wow, a unique poster with one post. I think va is talking to himself.:D Thats pretty sad.

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sybil!

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You realise, of course, that "traditional" black powder using percussion caps were a refinement of flintlocks, which were a refinement of wick ignition muskets. The rifled barrel of a Kentucky rifle was an improvement over smoothbores. The minie' ball was an improvement over the round ball. So I have to ask, how far back do you have to go to consider a traditional weapon traditional?