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Ballistic Tips on Deer YES or NO
#21
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I voted that i use something else...
I have used them, and i'd use them again, but i have a load worked up for my drilling using NP's and that's the only load i have used in this gun for many years...
I worked up the load when i was doing a lot of moose and brown bear hunting, so i chose what i thought was the best bullet for that job..
DM
I have used them, and i'd use them again, but i have a load worked up for my drilling using NP's and that's the only load i have used in this gun for many years...
I worked up the load when i was doing a lot of moose and brown bear hunting, so i chose what i thought was the best bullet for that job..
DM
#27
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Missouri
Got a question: Are we lumping all bullets that have a polymer tip in this? You all do realize that "Ballistic Tip" is a product name specifically refering to a bullet sold by Nosler? I personally catergorize "ballistic tips" seperately from ACCUBONDS, Barnes MRX, Hornady Interbond SST....
There is a significant difference between a BT and a Winchester XP3, Accubond, etc.
There is a significant difference between a BT and a Winchester XP3, Accubond, etc.
#28
Holy cow, I didn't catch that XP3 post! That would be a bullet that I am personally not familiar with, and like the others said, it definately isn't a Ballistic Tip.
And no, we aren't lumping all the polymer tips together.
One more time.
Nosler Ballistic Tips ONLY!!!!

And no, we aren't lumping all the polymer tips together.
One more time.
Nosler Ballistic Tips ONLY!!!!

#29
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Missouri
Just a FYI. As you know I got rialed up last evening, so I searched Nosler's page and found this:
NOSLER
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 609
Location: BEND, OR
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: Impact Velocities for Reliable Expansion
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Partition:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1800 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- N/A
Ballistic Tip:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1600 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 3000 fps
AccuBond:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1600 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- N/A
Here's the Link: http://www.noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1347
Now I ask you this: Why would Nosler publish a "Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion" for the Ballistic tip while the Accubond and Partition it is listed as Not Applicable? I personally Hypothesize that its because the BT has been known to experience failures at high impact velocities. Thats not to say that other bullets aren't prone to failures at high impact velocities, because they are. Just food forthought.
Now I ask you to consider this:
Assumeyou Load a 280 rem with 140g BT's to a muzzle velocity of approx 3100 fps. Further assume that you take a shot at a doe at less than 50 yards.
Is itpossible that the impact velocity was at least 3000 FPS? If so, could you reasonably assume that you may not "experience Reliable Expansion"?
Now, What is UNreliable Expansion? Could that include Violent Over Expansion? Is it possible that given these circumstance that a broadside shot could produce a Violent Failure of the bullet?
If you would indulge me,Lets take it a step futher in our assumptions: Lets say that in these same circumstances that the bullet, by some freak stroke of cosmic luck, impacted directly into a rib bone. Now, given these assumptions is it within the realm of possibility that a Violent over expansion could occur?
NOSLER
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 609
Location: BEND, OR
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Partition:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1800 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- N/A
Ballistic Tip:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1600 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 3000 fps
AccuBond:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1600 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- N/A
Now I ask you this: Why would Nosler publish a "Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion" for the Ballistic tip while the Accubond and Partition it is listed as Not Applicable? I personally Hypothesize that its because the BT has been known to experience failures at high impact velocities. Thats not to say that other bullets aren't prone to failures at high impact velocities, because they are. Just food forthought.
Now I ask you to consider this:
Assumeyou Load a 280 rem with 140g BT's to a muzzle velocity of approx 3100 fps. Further assume that you take a shot at a doe at less than 50 yards.
Is itpossible that the impact velocity was at least 3000 FPS? If so, could you reasonably assume that you may not "experience Reliable Expansion"?
Now, What is UNreliable Expansion? Could that include Violent Over Expansion? Is it possible that given these circumstance that a broadside shot could produce a Violent Failure of the bullet?
If you would indulge me,Lets take it a step futher in our assumptions: Lets say that in these same circumstances that the bullet, by some freak stroke of cosmic luck, impacted directly into a rib bone. Now, given these assumptions is it within the realm of possibility that a Violent over expansion could occur?
#30
Nontypical Buck
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I will answer that post at 40 yards with a 6.5X55 BT drop a 9 piont in its tracks when guting it I found that there was no heart and no liver they were jelly.
last year at 275 yards drop 6 point in its tracks what more can be said.
Just my opion I dont worry what someone wright in a book I go by what works for me.
BTs all the way
last year at 275 yards drop 6 point in its tracks what more can be said.
Just my opion I dont worry what someone wright in a book I go by what works for me.
BTs all the way











