Looking for input from those with experience using the reduced recoil loads from Remington or Federal. I've heard that they come pretty close to standard load ballistics out to about 150 yards, but that the point of impact can vary about an inch or so (both windage and elevation).

What has your experience been with POI consistency using these loads? Federal and Remington take different approaches to reducing recoil; does one maintain a "standard" POI better than the other?

Remington Managed recoil in .270 shot a couple of inches high and to the right in my son's rifle. Good groups, just way off from standard loads.

That will vary from gun to gun.There is no way to predict if the point of impact will be different.Simply changing the bullet style using the same weight and the identical powder charge can result in the POI moving several inches at 100 yards.The same thing can happen if you simply change the powder using the identical bullet and producing identical velocity.

Thanks, I completely understand that. Just wondering if anyone's experiences indicate that one brand holds a closer POI than the other, particularly in the windage dept.

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You know,some people might want to use the managed recoil loads for juniors, or wives, or they might be recoil sensitive. Obviously, any time you change loads, you should take your gun to the range and re-zero your scope. The fact that the bullets were hitting 4" low out of your rifle is not a valid indictment of the concept.

POI change doesn't mean anything, with any different ammo put through a rifle, you need to rezero anyhow.

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If I had youngsters that weren't up to handling recoil,I would consider low recoil loads until they are able to handle full power loads.However I would not consider them for an adult.If an adult can't handle the recoil of a cartridge,I would rather see them go to a cartridge that they can handle withy normal loads.As far as the difference in POI is concerned,that varies with any change in ammunition,so I don't consider it an issue.