I was just wondering if anyone knew why marlin doesn't make a 450 guide rifle in stainless steel.

Im not sure why, but you can get one done at wild west guns. They do really nice work.

So.... can we recommend the 45-70 to you? Ballistically speaking, 20 million dead bison can't be wrong.

Yeah, but im still going to get a 450 some day, 1895m but ill wait awhile, maybe they'll make in stainless. I saw a show once where a guy shot a buffalo with a sharps in 45/70 and it wasnt very impressive. I dont think the old fur hunters could drop buffalo as easy as they said. Not with the 45/70 anyway.

What do you think a 2000 pound animal is going to do....just roll over when hit? Maybe if you get a spine shot or both shoulders but come on...the damn thing is the largest animal on this continent. There is nothing...repeat nothing....that a 450 can do that a 45-70 can't. especially if you handload. Take a 400 plus grain hardcast bullet and throw it a close to 2000 fps and it'll zip through a buffalo no problem. Besides I wasn't around 130 years ago to talk to any old fur hunters to get their opinion on what they think worked or not.......now all i have to do is listen to full of sh-t gunwriters who have been rehashing the same stories for 130 years.....with 130 years of someone else's spin on it.

I'm not trying to change the topic of this thread or anything like that, but what aboutthe 444 Marlin? Marlin makes it in Stainless.

man id almost give my right leg for a 444 or 4570 or a 450 marlin in my opinion now that the lever evolution ammo came out i would take a marlin lever over Any rifle today as long as the shots are under 200yds.

The stories claim they would drop. I said i DIDNTthink the would drop, like the stories say. Also, i know the 45/70 can do whatever the 450 can do.It isnt going to make much of a difference..i never said it couldnt. by the way, im not hunting buffalo with it. Never said i was. I know theres nothing wrong with the 45/70, i just want a 450. Nothing wrong with 45/70 or the 444, I just want a 450

goos blues, buy ya a 450!!

It's a great round! I just mentioned 444 because I knew they made that in Stainless like you were asking for.
There's a lot of hypeabout the 45/70, there always has been. I've got a couple of 444's and I can't tell you how many people have said "why didn't you buy a 45/70?" because I don't want a 45/70, I wanta 444!!!
(Sound familiar)

Sounds like you know exactly what you want and I'd say get it buddy!

I hear what you are saying about the .444 but the .450 and the 45/70 are basiclly the same round. The 45/70 is more user friendly by being able to find factory ammo at many locations. I hand load and I can make my 45/70 be any where on the power scale , up to and including the .450's range.The 45/70 is made in many brands and styles of rifles. That alone will change alot of minds. The .444 is a great round I had one for many years I just like the old 45/70 better. And its like shooting a piece of our history. Just think that was a military round for severl years !!!