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Old 04-14-2006 | 08:33 PM
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Personally I think the whole "cheapest price" is boosheut and in the end NOT the best thing for the economy. Look at what the American consumer has done too themselves in the last 20 years since the push for a "global economy" and importing cheap goods etc... All it has done is encourage excessive spending by people who probably shouldn't have bought half the crap they have in the first place. Everyone is clamoring about the widening gap between the upperclass and the lowerclass, the middleclass is loosing ground. Well WHY? Because the middleclass has cheapened themselves out of a job by buying cheap Chinese crap peddled by Wal-Mart and most other mass marketers. They have done the same thing with their automobiles. For the last 15 years the best selling cars have been the Toyota Camry and the Honda Accord. Look at what that marketshare loss has done too GM and Ford!!! It hasn't made them make cars any better, it has just put them behind the 8ball because they have the restrictive environmental regulations, corporate taxation and union/retired worker expenses that are NOT issues that foreign makers are suffocated with.

If $50-$100 on a $500 gun makes that much difference too you (ESPECIALLY if it means you can or can't buy it) then should you really have that gun to begin with? Is it really so important that you go in a store with $100 and come out with a basketfull of cheap crap or a single bag worth of quality items that might last longer and actually employee your fellow Americans?

I was just raised differently I guess. I DO care about my childrens future, I DO want them to have the opportunity at gainful employment for a company started, grown and owned locally or at least AMERICAN OWNED. But obviously to many peoples concern ends at the tip of their nose and outside of their back pockets. Everyone wants to banter about and yell at the Mexicans, the Chinese, the Japs the south americans everyone but the truly guilty... THEMSELVES!!!

If you lost a good paying, middle America manufacturing job within the last 20 years and have had a rough go of it eversince. Or if you have to work 2 measily jobs and rush home to keep the kids while your wife works a similar measily job 3rd shift then do yourself a favor. The person to blame is in your bathroom. Go right now, turn on the light and look in the mirror. Look around, how many of the towels, the toilet paper, the toothbrushes, the hairdryer, the mirror on the wall etc... how much of that has "Made in China" on it and how much of it did YOU buy from the mass merchandisers???

Just like our grandparents used to tell us, "Son you can have that ......... some day, if you mind your Ps and Qs, take care of your business and do the right thing. Someday it WILL be yours".

But ever the impatient lot, sadly our country is to caught up in the GIMME NOW I DESERVE IT ALL RIGHT NOW mentality we just gotta have it ALL and RIGHT NOW. NOTHING is free...
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Old 04-14-2006 | 08:51 PM
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There is a lot of truth in that. I fear however that much of it is beyond our control already.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 05:45 AM
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how bout we boycott you, thanks to walmarts low firearm prices it forces the smaller gun shops to be fair on their markup. If walmart stops selling guns then I hope you guys will enjoy paying full MSRP for your guns.

thanks to walmart the working class american citizens can buy more quality guns for their buck. More guns in the hands of american citizens does alot more good for our freedom then sitting on joe "rip off" smoes gun stores shelves collecting dust. just my 2 cents
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Old 04-15-2006 | 08:24 AM
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A lot of 'boosheut' posted about Walmart.

In a free market economy, prices are supposed to come down if everything is working correctly- limited government interference, competition, innovation, and efficiency. Not much can be done about the socialistic encroachment of the government, but Walmart runs more efficintly, uses innovations, and basiscly trounces everyone else that tries to compete with them. They are able to sell for less cost because they are a better run business. If you want to pay $75 more for remington 710 from a less efficient business, more power to you, but you are a complete fool.

The person to blame is in your bathroom.
Yep- if there is a reason why a person can't make a good wage they should look right in the mirror at themselves and ask "why didn't I study harder in school so I could have become an engineer, a computer programmer, A CNC programmer/machinist, a plumber, an electrician, a mechanic, a nurse......"

The days of going to work and mindlessly pressing a button to get a peanut are in the past. Some people will not face it and will stand by and bitch about how their standard of living is slipping, others will educate themselves with marketable skills and live a higher standard of living than any of their ancestors ever dreamed of.



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Old 04-15-2006 | 03:15 PM
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The person to blame is in your bathroom.
Yep- if there is a reason why a person can't make a good wage they should look right in the mirror at themselves and ask "why didn't I study harder in school so I could have become an engineer, a computer programmer, A CNC programmer/machinist, a plumber, an electrician, a mechanic, a nurse......"

The days of going to work and mindlessly pressing a button to get a peanut are in the past. Some people will not face it and will stand by and bitch about how their standard of living is slipping, others will educate themselves with marketable skills and live a higher standard of living than any of their ancestors ever dreamed of.
Ihave toagree withRedAllison. Bottom line, factory jobs are beingoutsourced and they're not being replaced. Everyone says the answer is better education, but honestly, if every adult in America was educated with a BS, BA, Masters, or PhD, there wouldn'tbeenough jobs for them. Only about 35% of jobs require higher education, according to a government statistic I read a few years ago.

Macroeconomics says thatoutsourcing jobs should increase our exports, since those countries nowhave more revenue to purchase American goods with.But this is justan ideal model,we still have atrade deficitin the billions. In other words, we're buying loads from countries and they're not buying from us. China is experiencing a 10% economic growth every year. What's their secret? Theyhave a booming ecomony that doesn't import hardly anything.

I've heard that oursourcing increases American's living standard. This is a catch 22 to me. How does your living standard go up when a local ecomony is crippled when several thousand jobs are lost?

For example, lets say 1person works 50 hours a week(10 hours overtimeat time and a half) foroneyear in a factory. He makes$11 per hour and works 48weeks ofthe year. He'll make $29,040 a year before taxes. If the factory has 1,000 workers with similar employment, the local revenue is $29,040,000. Most economists say that money spent locally has about a multiplier effect of 7, meaning that each dollar spent will get spent 7 times over before it leaves that economy. If every factory workerspends or invests all their money locally (it's a model, just go with it), the local economy earned $203,280,000. That factory is now outsourced, crippling the local economy, soAmerican's can save $1.50 per crockpot at Wal-Mart. Did we just increase our standard of living?

I know it's just a made up example, and I ignored a lot of real worldfactors,butthat modelisn't too far from the truth. America's economic power is slipping everytime we outsource factory jobs, because they're not being replaced. I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think American's are going to continue to experience the level of luxury we're used to. Does it matter if the products are cheaper if you no longer have an income to purchase them with?
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Old 04-15-2006 | 03:52 PM
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I don't blame Walmart as much as the American way of thinking. Where else in the world do people have so much stuff they must rent a local storage unit?? Another problem is high labor costs. Unions insist on working less for more money and benifits.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 05:25 PM
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The founder of the wal mart stores is rolling over in his grave, the way there running his stores now. When he was alive they had very little imports in there stores. Oh! need a job go to china wal-mart going to hire 150,000 over there. Rich
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Old 04-15-2006 | 06:44 PM
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I remember Sam screaming Buy American on the ads...... Just another symptom of the times as corporations ceo pensions are in the millions per year while the average retiree is losing benefits by the year.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 07:15 PM
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DD. I remember those days well. Walmart advertised buying everything possible made in USA. They have now become a branch store for china and sell hardly any American made products. In fact they do their level best to sell everything chinese. They are about the only place in this town where you can by everyday products and clothing. All the local businesses threw in the towel several years ago. I just buy everything I can elsewhere and when I do buy stufff there I try my best to see if its American made. All I can do is what I can do. They are the biggest force in this country for a global society and global market place. If thats good then I guess we owe them everything.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 08:24 PM
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Hey Reb,
Ya know, Im not too familiar with either of those. Probably because i never even thought of hunting when I lived in Tampa. and second because when i lived there i didn't frequent the hardware stores. Not too handy a guy back then. getting better though
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