I have both and I would take the .22mag anyday over the .17hmr. That little pill just isnt my cup of tea. I have shot manycoyotes with my deuce deuce and they fell over dead. The two with the .17 ran off to be finished later with another round.I chronyed my .22 and it was around 2200fps and the .17 averaged 2500 not bad but that is a 40gr .22 and 17gr -.17 . Like I said i'll take my .22mag.

That's odd that you are off the scale in the opposite direction on both loads. Almost everything I read or hear about when someone chronoes either round is the 17 is between 2600 and 2650 and most 40 grn 22mag stuff is closer to 1800 fps.

Not all guns are the same though, so your findings are not shocking. just not the norm I would venture to guess. My 17 for sure shoots faster than 2500 fps because the trajectory is flatter than that speed would suggest.

The 17 grn V-max bullets really were not meant for medium sized game like dogs, so I'm not suprised when I hear stories about them not working on them. Perfect shot placement would have to be must. The 20 grn XTPs probably work a bit better. I shot a cat with my 17 with the vmax ammo and it ran about 40 yards before dropping over.

Paul

LMFAO ! how true !

I had Savage heavy barrel .22 magnum and sold it to buy a Savage heavy barrel in .17 HMR. It was the best thing I ever did. The 17 will shoot a ten shot group at 100 yards inside an inch. The .22 wouldnt. I saw a guy hunting wild boars on one of the outdoor channels with a savage .17 hmr. He shot it at about 20 yards and it got up and he hit it between the eyes and dropped it like it had been hit with a .458 magnum. This hog was about 200 to 250 pounds. Ill stick with my .17hmr. Looking to get a .17mach2 in a semi auto rifle and see what it can do.

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I saw a guy hunting wild boars on one of the outdoor channels with a savage .17 hmr. He shot it at about 20 yards and it got up and he hit it between the eyes and dropped it like it had been hit with a .458 magnum.

I'll killa 2000 pound bullthe same way with any .22

This same thing was posted on another forum the other day, wonder if its by the same person. Anyways.

When I looked on the Winchester web site, there is only one bullet that they load for the .22mag that has less energy than the .17 at 100yds and its only about five ft lbs more. ( i can't remember excatly what it was). All of the other .22mag rounds were listed to have more energy at 100 yards than the .17hmr.

Not saying one is better. Just posting what i read.

Well, one of these days, you can come over and blast any ground squirrel at 100 yards or more. I don't limit my shots to 25 yards or less for those rodents of the earth, I will take them out at 160 yards with the .17 HMR and what the open up with Federal BTs. And when the wind gusts more than 10 mph, I don't go and borrow a .22 magnum, I whip out my .204 and the varmint of the earth that eats my oat and forage hay is taken apart celebrated by a evil grin of a satisfied customer.

Now that sounds more reasonable. When someone states that there 17HMR is good to 300 yards, talk about stretching the truth...

And I agree. And whoever says that the .17 HMR can take down a yote or even badger at that yardage, must of been biten by a rattler, and is now hallucinating[8D]....I am sure it could wound it to the point of making a bleeding shot, but no reliable in my book. I have hit a ground squirrel with the .17 HMR close to 200 yards, at it was a luck shot I have to admit ( I don't admit those rarely ), but I don't rely on it like I said past 160 yards. The .17 HMR is really a fun cartridge, and I have taken head shots at yotes under 120 yards or so, and have had success ( it was the only rifle I had at the time when doing the daily chores on the ranch and nursery), yet when I truly go out yote hunting, I take my trusty .308 Tikka T3. No complaints.

Some guys just have all the fun jobs...