Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
For all N.A. Hooved Animals ..280 ACkley Improved and a 338-06 would fit the bill. Yes Quilly Dakotas are an expensive proposition but way too pretty to hunt with at least I couldn't do it.
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
Quilly -I would not use a dakota rifle just the dakota cartridge in a stainless 700 action in a mcmillan stock.I do not hunt with pretty rifles or any rifle with a wooden stock for that matter.
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
2 differnt combos, 1 combo would be the 25-06 and the 35whelen. combo 2 would be the 30-06 and the 45-70.
combo 1 is if i thought i would hunt proportionally more smaller deer sized game, and the 2nd is obviously for if i thought i would hunt more larger game.
stubblejumper, a rose by any other name is just as sweet. those are magnum velocties with their respective bullet weights and therefore i would call them magnums
propmahn
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combo 1 is if i thought i would hunt proportionally more smaller deer sized game, and the 2nd is obviously for if i thought i would hunt more larger game.
stubblejumper, a rose by any other name is just as sweet. those are magnum velocties with their respective bullet weights and therefore i would call them magnums
propmahn
you can never have too many guns
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
My choices are similar to those of several others (cartridge-wise<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>), but my rifles are a little different. For the little stuff or longer range shooting, I'd go with a BLR in .257 Roberts (2nd choice- .270), and for the bigger stuff, a Remington 7600 in .35 Whelen.
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
SeattleSetters,
not trying to ruin your weekend but I still have my 284 BLR-81. Shot about 200 rounds through it and retired it to the gun safe. Most accurate lever action I've ever shot and would be one of the last rifles I'd ever part with. To 300 yards I shoot anything except a bison and then I'd use a 338-06.
not trying to ruin your weekend but I still have my 284 BLR-81. Shot about 200 rounds through it and retired it to the gun safe. Most accurate lever action I've ever shot and would be one of the last rifles I'd ever part with. To 300 yards I shoot anything except a bison and then I'd use a 338-06.
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RE: Only 2 NON-MAG rifles for all N. Am. hooved game?
Alright, here's mine: First, as much as I love the .260 Rem, I think I'd go with the wildcat 6.5mm/.284. It flies a little faster and a little farther and I have seen first-hand what it does to game up to and including elk. It will take any hoofed game animal in North America (other than bison) out to any range that I would feel comfortable taking a shot. I'd use 120-129gr bullets for deer, antelope, sheep and goats, and 140gr bullets for caribou, moose and elk.
For a heavy rifle, I'd select the 8x57JS. When handloaded with 200gr Nosler Partition bullets the old Mauser develops 2700fps, the exact same velocity reached by the .30-06 with 180gr bullets and the .338-06 with 210gr bullets. I don't think anyone would argue that both of those rounds are not excellent elk medicine out to 250 yards or even a bit farther. Since the 8mm 200gr bullet has slightly greater sectional density than either the 180gr .308 or the 210gr .338, I can expect equal or even better performance than the other two. Also, the 8mm Mauser does this using 5-7grs less powder than the other two to achieve the same velocity. The recoil generated is about equal to the .30-06 and is 4-7ft lbs less the .338-06 in equal-weight rifles. I would use 170gr Sierra Pro Hunter or 180gr Barnes X bullets for deer in the woods, the 200gr Partition for elk and moose and the 220gr Swift A-Frame for bison, or moose in habitat shared by big bears.
I think these two would give me both an excellent long-range rifle and an awesome stopper in the woods.
The 6.5mm/.284 would wear a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10 and the 8x57JS would have a Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8 scope on top of it.
Good Dogwork and Good Hunting
Edited by - seattlesetters on 10/23/2002 00:05:35
For a heavy rifle, I'd select the 8x57JS. When handloaded with 200gr Nosler Partition bullets the old Mauser develops 2700fps, the exact same velocity reached by the .30-06 with 180gr bullets and the .338-06 with 210gr bullets. I don't think anyone would argue that both of those rounds are not excellent elk medicine out to 250 yards or even a bit farther. Since the 8mm 200gr bullet has slightly greater sectional density than either the 180gr .308 or the 210gr .338, I can expect equal or even better performance than the other two. Also, the 8mm Mauser does this using 5-7grs less powder than the other two to achieve the same velocity. The recoil generated is about equal to the .30-06 and is 4-7ft lbs less the .338-06 in equal-weight rifles. I would use 170gr Sierra Pro Hunter or 180gr Barnes X bullets for deer in the woods, the 200gr Partition for elk and moose and the 220gr Swift A-Frame for bison, or moose in habitat shared by big bears.
I think these two would give me both an excellent long-range rifle and an awesome stopper in the woods.
The 6.5mm/.284 would wear a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10 and the 8x57JS would have a Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8 scope on top of it.
Good Dogwork and Good Hunting
Edited by - seattlesetters on 10/23/2002 00:05:35
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