browning a-bolt
 

I was just wondering if anyone shots a browning a-bolt? im sure lots do, because browning makes quality rifles. i was just wonder how do they shot? are they veryaccurate say like a remington?where i live u dont see very many people witha-bolts,mostly remington and winchester but i have seen and shot alot of browning bars and blrs. i am wonder this because i plan on buying an composite stalker a-bolt in 308 win. right now i shoot a remington 700 mountain lss chamber for 260 rem its an awsome little gun but i dont like how it dosent have a detachable megazine, i hate caring loose bullets inmy pocket (lol)

RE: browning a-bolt
 

If you really want a detachable mag and accuracy is very important you might try a tikka t-3.The tikka magazine is much quicker and simpler than the a-bolts overly complicated system and all tikka rifles must shoot a 5 shot 1" group at 100 yards before being sold.Actually I prefer the remington detachable mag over the a-bolts as well.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

The Browning magazine system isn't very well suited for quick changes. They are on a floorplate swing out design, which is a joke if you ask me. The Tikka has a very quick and easy to change out magazine. Spare mags come at a very high cost for each rifle, I believe Brownings are in the 40-50 dollar range and Tikkas are a bit higher and they are harder to come by.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

i just bought a 7mm-08 a-bolt this week and i am going to the range tomorrow,i think the 7mm-08 is a little better all the way around if you ask me,than the 308.which i also do have,in savage.my father inlaw bought a 308.a-bolt this year and it is a tack driver,especially after he installed the barrel de resonator.he shots the factory federal fusion ammo 150 out of it.go for the 7mm-08!!!!flater ,less wind drift,and greater energy.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I own an A-bolt Stainless stalker 30-06with a BOSS and I feel it is a very accurate weapon. The reason I choose a browning was because of the shorter degree of bolt throw over the remington. I usually recycle the bolt while my gun is still on my shoulder and I found it to be easier to do when the bolt throw is 60 degreesrather than the amount found on the remington.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Jaybird,I have had 2 abolts,first one in 7mm mag witha 28" barrel. Nice gun and very accurate(traded it in ,barrel was too long for use in a treestand),second one is a 270wsm micro hunter which i love,I put a sims limbsaver and changed the trigger spring (which is vert easy even if you don't know much about that kind of stuff),it is my most accurate rifle using 140 grain accubond bullets. HIGHLY reccomend it.
Bill

RE: browning a-bolt
 

he meant to say sims barrel de-resonator,they do work...

RE: browning a-bolt
 

A bolts in 7mm remmagcome with a 26" barrel.Was this the original barrel?

RE: browning a-bolt
 

stubblejumper,the 26" barrel is the original barrel on the medalion model,the sims limbsaver is a recoil pad on my micro hunter & it works great.
Bill

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I have never seen any a-bolt with a 28" barrel from the factory,hence my asking.Even the browning website doesn't show any a-bolt in 7mmremmag with a 28" barrel.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

buying a 7mm-08? i know its a great caliber but i think i will stick to my 308win its my favorite caliber and its the best of the best in my opion, the 7mm-08 is great caliber but i dont think it will kill like a 308. as far a energy is better for the 7mm-08, i dont really think energy is a great way of telling killing power... there is many factors in killing power then just energy. it shoots flater? for sure but i bet it cant hit with a 308 just askany one that shoots for a livin.lesswind drift maybe,the 260 rem in alot of cases has better energy thenboth the 7mm-08 and 308 but do i think it is really better,i think no... hers a pic of a moose my unkle shot with a 308 at almost 300 yards with a one shoot to put him down



Information




Index Number
Cartridge Type
W



Information




Index Number
Cartridge Type
Weight (grs.)
Bullet Style
Primer No.
Ballistic Coefficient

PRA260RA
Premier® AccuTip™
120
AccuTip™ Boat Tail
9 1/2
0.480

PRC260RB
Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
140
Core-Lokt® Ultra Bonded
9 1/2
0.457

R7M082
Remington® Express®
120
Hollow Point
9 1/2
0.343

R7M081
Remington® Express®
140
Pointed Soft Point Core-Lokt®
9 1/2
0.390

PRSC308WA
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150
Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded
9 1/2
0.435

PRSC308WB
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
165
Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded
9 1/2
0.475



Velocity (ft/sec)




Cartridge Type
Bullet
Muzzle
100
200
300
400
500

Premier® AccuTip™
120 AT BT
2890
2697
2512
2334
2163
2000

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
140 CLUB
2750
2554
2365
2185
2013
1849

Remington® Express®
120 HP
3000
2725
2467
2223
1992
1778

Remington® Express®
140 PSP CL
2860
2625
2402
2189
1988
1798

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
2820
2611
2410
2219
2037
1863

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
165 SSB
2700
2513
2333
2161
1996
1839



Energy (ft-lbs)




Cartridge Type
Bullet
Muzzle
100
200
300
400
500

Premier® AccuTip™
120 AT BT
2392
2083
1807
1560
1340
1146

Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra
140 CLUB
2351
2027
1739
1484
1260
1063

Remington® Express®
120 HP
2398
1979
1621
1316
1058
842

Remington® Express®
140 PSP CL
2542
2142
1793
1490
1228
1005

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
150 SSB
2648
2269
1935
1640
1381
1156

Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded
165 SSB
2670
2313
1994
1711
1459
1239

RE: browning a-bolt
 

"The Browning magazine system isn't very well suited for quick changes. They are on a floorplate swing out design, which is a joke if you ask me. The Tikka has a very quick and easy to change out magazine. Spare mags come at a very high cost for each rifle, I believe Brownings are in the 40-50 dollar range and Tikkas are a bit higher and they are harder to come by. "

I dont know what this idiot is talking about, i have a browning a bolt medallion 30-06 and i love it, it only takes me a couple of seconds to change clips and ready to shoot again. it holds 5 in the clip.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I have owned two browning Abolts and one tikka. Both have proven pretty accurate but I would give the edge to the browning. I also think the browing is a more durable design. THe one tikka I did have split the stock after less than 100 rounds. WHen I seeked factory repair they refused to touch it because I had a muzzle brake installed. The muzzle brake had nothing to do with the stock cracking, if anything it should have helped. THe tikka has a pathetic recoil lug system. The browning has a standard recoil lug setup. I also have a lot more faith in steel magazine as opposed to plastic. The brownings have worked flawlessly for me for the last 12 years or so. The boss system really works well also. Given the same price I would always opt for the browning. I just don't care for beretta usa's customer service and the way they handled the tikka / sako recall. To many guns left out there at risk just to save a little publicitiy.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

mine shots 1/4 inch groups,just found that out yesterday,with hornady light mag sp 139 grns,i also instaled the sims barrel de-resonator.ishot right inside some else bullet hole at 130 yards,i could do a little better if i had a multi-x retical instead of the firefly retical,its kind of thick, and it kind of hides behind the crosshairs,the small targets that is...o well its a hunting rifle not a target rifle..i am really pleased with its performance..i was getting little over 1 inch with out the sims resonator...its the a-bolt 7mm-08

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I own 2 Browning A-bolts, 1 in 270 and the other is a .204 hunter. I love both of these rifles and prefer browning over any other rifle or shotguns. They are accurate, and very well constructed. I also like the finishes to them over alot of the other gun makers. The magazine system IS NOT complicated at all. I like it because it is removable but when in the rifle it is inside to leave nothing sticking out. If anyone says the mags are complicated to use just don't know what they are talking about!! Go for the browning, after you shoot and own one you will be glad that you did!

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Some of us do not like to admit this, but most people like clipsbecause it makes road hunting easier to do safely. Let's just be honest - are you really going to carry a double stacked rifle clip in your pants pocket? Don't fall, 'cause you will find out what it's like to leave part of your manhood on the hill. Maybe you were refering to your coat pocket instead - I hope so.

Now that I got the none P.C. stuff out of the way, the assessments regarding the fast change clip insertion of a Browning are spot one. There is nothing quick about them.

If memory serves me correctly, Remington does make a version of the Mountian Rifle with quick insert clips, and it is a clean design to.

The Brownings have good barrels on them, and you should not have any trouble finding over the counter ammo that will shoot sub MOA groups for you.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

As a former owner ofa browning rifle with the silly combination floorplate/ removeable magazine system,I most certainly do know what I am talking about.You must drop the floorplate, then attach the magazine to the floorplate,then close the floorplate,which amounts to three separate steps.With the remington or tikka system you simply push the magazine into the receiver in a single step.Which is more complicated?I am willing to bet my paycheck that I can install the magazine in my remington ,quicker than you can install the magazine a browning with the floorplate/detachable magazine.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

whats the big deal any way???few seconds slower,lol...make the first one count is the way i see it.i have never needed a whole clip to kill any animal....i like everything about my browning..

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I think the floor plate looks better then the standard detach mag like on Rem or Tikka.
What are you hunting that the 1st 4 or 5 shots depending on what your rifle holds arent enough that you need a quicker changing clip to get shots 6-10 off. I dont understand why you would need a faster changing clip but I would have to agree that the Rem Mnt Rifleclip or Tikka is faster to change then theBrowning.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

My point is that I prefer things to be simple,less likelyto fail.Why make something more complicated than it needs tobe?Actually in many chamberings the magazines only hold three rounds which is almost always more than enough.However if you should for some reason need an extra round,simpler and quicker is better.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

only thing that i see wrong with the browning a-bolt,is that the ramp is to steep were the bullet slides into the barrel,they should have made it less angled for smoother and easier injecting the round when cycling.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I bought an A-bolt in 7mm RM and my wife had a 270. We still have the 270, great little gun, shoots very well and good trigger. Not the smoothest bolt slide but still a nice little gun. My A-bolt however I sold off. Just wouldn't shoot that well. I could never get better than about 2" at 100 yards even with handloads. I even contacted Browning and sent it back to be inspected and they sent it back with a 50 yard target with 3 holes about 1" apart saying that was within specs for that gun. Since I'm a gun nutthat kind of accuracy just wasn't good enough for me so I sold it and bought a Tikka. Much better.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Whats with the name calling? Did I say anything in my statement that was incorrect? And would you like to race me in a reload, I'll usea Tikka, AR 15, Mini 14, Remington 700, etc and we'll see who can reload their gun faster. All I said was that the Browning design is a joke that requires multiple steps to reload.

You might want to get your facts straight before you start throwing out names, you aren't going to be very well liked around here if you keep things up at this rate.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

you tell him rammer I bet I could load my 700 with the hinged floorplate almost as fast as a browning big tex better keep the dog cause if he talks like that he wont have any friends but the dog

RE: browning a-bolt
 

You nailed it SJ. I too used to (and still do) own a Browning. I think they make a really good rifle but their clip system just isn't that great. The Remington's are well done as are the Sako's. The Tikka's aren't that great but they are better in the fact you just pop them in or out as a detachable clip should be. Not for road hunting, just nice to be able to get in and out of the truck during the day without having to dump all your shells on the ground or cycle them through your action. Seems safer to me actually than running those shells through your action all the time or dropping them out of the floorplate. Some people catch them in their hands but I've seen too many hunters just run them all through or just let them fall on the ground. Plus it does make it easier to carry an extra clip full in case there is a need. My 7mm Mag only holds 3 shells in the clip so unless I load a 4th in the barrel I can forsee elk or bear hunting when 3 shots might not be enough. I have had to shoot an elk 5 times before with that rifle and had to reload once to do it (last 2 were finishing shots so time wasnt' that critical).

RE: browning a-bolt
 

abolt is the best rifle on the market. mine's a medallion in 280, trust it in any situation

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Thats a rather bold statment if you would of added imo it would have been fine but I dont own a browning and have heard no bad about them but I dont know about the best on the market.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

That is a bold statement. But, that is whats great about this country, we can say what we want.

I have a Browning A-Bolt and I would also trust it against "almost" anything in most situations [:'(]

You know what the best thing about that statement is? How can you prove it wrong that its not the best gun on the market? ;)

RE: browning a-bolt
 

well rammer thats why I never said it wasn't the best rifle. cause but its funny more people have not attacked him yet on his statement

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I like the way the a-bolt feels in my hands. I don't own one because I can't afford one. I had clients in hog hunting last week. One hand an a-bolt in SS with composite stock. It felt good and he swore by it for mulie and elk hunting (.30-06). I own a .308 Savage weather warrior and I am very pleased with it. I hunt hogs in very thick swampy stuff.

If someone gave me an A-Bolt or I found one at a very reduced price I would probably buy it. IMO - from multiple clients from different areas and friends that the A-Bolt is a very good rifle.

Now as far as carrying bullets around in your pocket. Go to Gander Mountaint, Wally-World or any sporting goods store and buy the little bullet holders that have a velcro cover flap. That works for me and my wife (she shoots a HFE Handi Rifle single shot).

RE: browning a-bolt
 

i have owned alot of rifles and the browning a-bolt is one of the best i have ever owned,next to my sig rifle i once had,wish i would of kept.i have ownwed remigton 700 bdl,savage 116,winchester 70,and rugers markll 77,and out of all of them its the browning a-bolt and sig, that i like the most.just my opinion...

RE: browning a-bolt
 

7mm-08 has more energy than the 308 and 260 and shoots flatter....

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Not sure I understand your reasoning on how the 7mm-08 has more energy than a 308. I'd like to see some info backing this statement.

A .284 bullet out of a necked down .308 case is NOT going to have more energy than a 30 caliber.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

go to remington ballistics and compare it to the 7mm-08 and the 308. with the standerd cor lokt ammo,or any ammo and you will see,it also has more energy than the 30-06 and is flatter than the 30-06 in 150 gr and 165 gr.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

ill think you will be surprised that it does.theres your info.it compares to a 280,but i think that is awsome whem it is a short action compared to a long action.the .284 is the most gravity defien bullet made.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

I will give you it does shoot a little flatter, but it does not have more energy than the 308 or 30-06. As per Remington ballistics.

RE: browning a-bolt
 

oh yes it does look at the ballistics,

RE: browning a-bolt
 

7mm-08
140 AT BT Muzzle/2542 100/2216
140 PSP CL Muzzle/2542100/2142

308
150 PSP CL Muzzle/2648 100/2137
165 AT BT Muzzle/2670 100/2292

30-06
150 CLUB Muzzle/2820 100/2305
165 AT BT Muzzle/2872 100/2470

RE: browning a-bolt
 

and its more accurate cause less kick,its a bad ass round for a short action,its king of the short actions,i love mine...

RE: browning a-bolt
 

Show me where it has more energy. I'm dieing to be educated.