cool. thank you for all your inputs. made the decision that much easier.

I have both an express combo and a supermag SPS Camo. As far as a pump goes you cannot get a better gun. I know only use the express as a slug gun, but it is still a work horse. I would definitely buy an 870 and there are many options as far as pricing goes. I'd stay away from the remingtion auto's though. There are better guns, but in a pump the 870 can't be beat.

Great bird and deer gun.