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statjunk 07-27-2005 02:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: James B

Many many times if you recommend a standard cartridge you will get the old story about how the 270 or 30-06 will just wound game like elk and moose and other than DM you won't see many others considering the 30-06 for Grizzly. The 270 and 30-06 fall out of the running for most when Elk are in the picture even though they are two of the better cartridges available for that work. I have caught a lot of flack for using the non Magnums for game bigger than tiny whittails.:D. Thats ok though because I have been using the 30-06 all over hell since 1956 and unlike some, I know what it will do. I havn't seen much it won't do though. Same for the 270. Its not like I havn't tried most of the Magnum cartridges as well. I had the Magnum bug for a while. Now that I have used them both a lot, I have gone back to the old standards.Like Me.:D:D.

A lot of people who don't like venison are the same people that drag fish around the lake all day on a stringer on the surface in the sun and say that fish stink and don't taste good. NO LIE?
Will you stick to the f#$%!ing subject. This is a venison recipie thread.

Tom

Da Big Guy 07-27-2005 02:54 PM

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Red; You are making an interesting observation but to me it has always been a matter of preference regarding large game . I prefer the 06 I like the options I can get handloading ie bullet weight powder charge.
It is not that I don't want to try anything larger I don't really have the need for one.

I don't have to tell you that a well placed shot with an 06 and any of the larger game animals will go done like a stone.

Anyway, keep shootin those magnums and I'll see you in camp.




BareBack Jack 07-27-2005 03:09 PM

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You guys can find it funny or just plain assnine,but it is what it is.

Yes it was partly bullets I was using,(Federal Classic 180 gr SP)but the bullet never came apart,there was 4 perfect mushroomed bullets laying either in the rib cage or just under the skin.Now to me that seemed under powered.
I have used the sameshells but out of a .338 win mag and 225 gr and at 200 yds have drove through the shoulder and to be never seen again.
For me I lost confidence in the 30-06,and I have always been a very,very big advocate for Premium bullets out of the 30-06 for elk.It has been my personal minimum for elk.I like something that can drive premium bullet at least 2800 FPS of 165 gr or more thats why I opt
for a Magnum.My much anymore go to gun is the 300 Ultra Mag (180 noslers)or my .338 Win Mag. (210 gr Noslers).
You never be under gunned,why use something that is adequate when you can use something great,it's all gravy after that.
BBJ

gorse 07-27-2005 04:54 PM

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Well Jack, if you've lost confidence in the '06, then by all means switch to something in which you will have confidence. Nothing at all wrong with that. Your conclusion about the '06 (based on your own observation) is certainly valid, for you. Others who have had dissimilar results, may have drawn a differnet conclusion. Your experience could be the result of just bad luck. But, in any case, do what works for YOU.

James B 07-27-2005 06:28 PM

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I put five shots through the chest of a Mule deer Buck some years back with one of my 280's After the firstr shot his front legs spread just a tad. but he just stood there and took four more rounds. When I went to put more shells in the gun and looked back at him, he was laying there dead. I am sure now looking back that he was stone dead after the first shot. His nerves and muscels must have just locked up for a minute because I know that it doesn't take five 140 grain Nosler Bullets at 3000 fps to drop a mule deer. Strange things happen and I am sure that in this case the result would have been the same with my 7 Mag shooting the same bullets.. In all my years with the 30-06 I have never had it fail to drop elk, deer and moose pretty close to where the stood.. In some cases things happen and I have seen it happen with magnums as well. A guy that I guided several different years hit a Mule deer doe three times with his 340 Weatherby and still required a finishing shot. Any one of his shots should have flattened that deer. He was one of the fellows I mentioned earlier that kept bringing a bigger rifle every year. I never saw the guy again after that fall but he is probably using a 50 BMG by now.:D. Nothing is for sure in hunting. All you can do is place the shot well and wait for the results..

Sorry about interupting the reciepe session.:D

Doe Dumper 07-28-2005 03:18 AM

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Lemme add my whiff of stink to this discussion :D Back in my 400 pound days I used to eat tons of beef...now in my 200 pound days I stick to wild game..usually venison. Yes BC good ol northern WV stinkin acorn gorged run to death scrawny whitetails. :DJamesB the grain fed mule deer was some unfair teasing...lol. I told ya I want one of those..lol. Elk seemed to be real good..just havent ever got to kill one or eat very much of it. One of these days. Yes I plan on using the .270 for it also.;)

As far as the magnum/non magnum deal more than once I have read about the non magnum shooters like myselfbeing sissies on here and whining bout recoil. So I will stick to my SPS theory on the magnum shooters.:D

James B 07-28-2005 06:38 AM

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Man that chicken fried deer steak was great the other night. There are few better meals IMO. I mix Beef with my Deer Burger though. The pure deer burger is pretty dry. I like a 50/50 mix.. 270 for elk??? How could you? You better hope its not one of the saber tooth elk.:D:D:D

DM 07-28-2005 07:43 AM

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Now we are talking food????? That's another subject i happen to be very fond of... :>))

I'm lucky to have lived my entire life in game rich area's and i've ate my share of moose, deer, caribou, bear ect.. ect...

I just about can't even stand the smell of a mose any longer, and wouldn't shoot one if it hung itself up in my back yard. I do still like Caribou and deer, but i pretty much only hunt deer these days.

I kinda like to add about 1/3 pork to my venison burger when i cook it so i tend to do that. As for steak, it is hard to beat a chicken fried back steak!!!

Drilling Man

gorse 07-28-2005 08:10 AM

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There is so little fat in Elk and many other similar game meats, that they don't hold together well, when ground and made into burgers. Adding a little fat (in the form of some other type of meat) works well. I prefer my Elk sliced into medallions...then grilled medium rare. It doesn't get much better than that, IMO. Also, for the "gamy" flavor of these meats (which puts off some people), I have found that adding 1 teaspoon of dry or brown mustard kills all of the "gamy" flavor. My wife would even eat Elk that way...and she was as finicky as one could be.


James B 07-28-2005 08:17 AM

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I mix some pork and sausage seasoning with some of the burger and beef with some. I like elk steak about any way but oven baked is hard to beat. Very good food when shot with a standard or Magnum rifle.;)


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