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ORIGINAL: BareBack Jack

Well said Red well said.
I have felt the wrath of the non-magnum shooters,I to was a once true blue 30-06 user andI felt it was the only gun I ever needed.But one day that all changed for me and it was not all that long ago maybe 10 years ago.That is when I saw my trusted 30-06 fail,oh it killed the elk,but it took 4 shots(3 in the heart-lungs and 1 in the neck to finish it),all of them were well placed shots,when gutting the cow she had 3 sluggs up against the ribbs on the far side,yes the 30-06 worked but the shot was only 40 yds.Now if a 30-06 can't punch trough at 40 yds what would it do at 200 or 300.To me it only happened once but that was enough,the gun performed but failed in my eyes.For me it all about entrance and exit,none of this"Well it displaced all its energy in the elk" crap,cause if that was true it would have stopped running and died.
I primarly hunt elk andI hunt them in tough areas and when I shoot I want them down and down now,I want big bullets at high velocity.
I don't realy need the range but it is nice to hace I want KE,and FT/Lbs.
If someone don't wanna shoot no magnums then don',t but if you ask what to use for elk or a North American rifle I'm gonna tell you and to me a MAGNUM fits the bill.

It is what I use and you can't turn me back,I have tasted the dark side young Jedi's
BBJ

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compensating for well lack of better terms "our mannly hood".

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I have two words to say about those who can't kill a deer with a 30-06. But I won't use them here.

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I have been on a lot of blood trails where the shooter claimed a good hit only to discover when we finally found the deer a half a mile away and often the next morning that the hit was not nearly as good as they thought it was.

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