Of course, the SPS has a matte blued finish. I suppose you don't like their shotguns either.

And Graybeard!

I bet many people have no clue about your absurd claim.

Heh, Graybeard would tell you the EXACT opposite! He has over two hundred Remington rifles.

Besides, what exactly is your problem with Remington i.e. finish or accuracy?

Uh, don’t compare expensive rifles with less expensive ones. Besides, I thought you were comparing Remington’s present rifles with the ones produced before the late 80's.

Many of my friends and hunting partners use Remingtons and none of us have seen the horror stories I hear from all of two or three members of this forum. Like I said the poll here speaks for itself we can't all be liars if if you think I am. I just have had no problems. Sorry, I feel guilty for getting all the good ones. My lastest one is a 2002 model, 257 Roberts four thenths inch group with factory Federal 120 grain Noslers right from the box. The first three shots after sight in. Thats about what I expect. Its just that that one liked the first load I tried. I will have another new one to test in about a month. I am sure it will beat one inch the first time out. It will be a hunting rifle and I am also sure it will function flawlessly. Once in a while I have had to bend the front of the magazine spring up just a tad. Thats as serious a problem as I ever have. Never seen a proble with the extracter or ejecter or the safty.

I don't sell Remingtons anymore as I don't have the store now. I don't own any Remington stock and have no reason on this planet to make any claims about any brand that that are not valid for me.

Old Elk Hunter: Please accept my apologies for the comment about drinking. You were sounding like a two year old throwing a tantrum, and I thoughtthe comment
might be a "reality check" for what appeared to beopinions based more on emotionthan fact. I did read your post(s) and do agree that, in its unaltered factory form, the Remington 700 is not as good overall in quality as higher end factory guns likeKimbers.

I think you will find thatmany gunsmiths are not computer folks. I'm not either, but my wife bought me one for the shop. I like to take a break every couple of hours, and enjoy puttering with the computer while I drink my coffee. Although you might prefer that I play solitare,I plan to continue to participate in this board. The exchange of ideas is stimulating . . . .

Hey guys simmer down,thanks for all the heated discusion.

Here is the jist,
I ran into a guy last weekend,and was talking to him.He builds his own guns and said that if I get that SPS he would build me a one of his rifles.
So I have opted for that,it is called a 300 Allen magnum.It sounds pretty exciting.
He showed me his data and what not.It's built off a .409 somthing or other case can push a 220 nosler at around 3800 FPS.
He also has a .257 and a 7mm,the 257 AM runs about 4100 fps with custom made 140 grbullets out of Canada and the 7mm right around 3600 fps with a 200 gr bulet.
The 257 and the 7mm are in production now and are tested.
Got to remember these are out of 30 inch barrels and are built for long range hunting.
BBJ

BBJ,

The same gunsmith has my Rem 700 action and 300 RUM barrel sitting in his shop. Kirby is an awesome guy to work with. I chose the 270 AM which has been his biggest hit so far. I chose that because of the ease of reloading.

Yes he is,I realy enjoyed talking to him.That man realy knows his stuff.
I was wondering how may pepole knew of him here on the net,that was fast.
He realy is a great guy.
BBJ

BBJ,

I have seen his name pop up a few times on this site. I found out about him on longrangehunting.com. Do you think you will use the gun as a long range tool? With his 270 AM he killed a chuck at 1114 yards. Pretty good out of a sporter rifle.

I plan to,but afterI get the gun I will have to save up to buy the optics and the range finders to do it.
I'm planing on a sporter so I can pack it around still,he said some where around 8.5lbs is the norm.
He asked me to come by and shoot some of his stuff next time I was around and I will take him up on it.
BBJ

BBJ,

I plan to also. Yeah I think if you get that 30" barrel fluted it comes in around 8.5. I think mine will come in at around 10 lbs with optics. I am just having a 4.5-14x44 Ziess Mil-Dot put on mine. Still need the range finder. Should have the recoil of a 22-250 he said.

Ask to shoot his 338 Kahn. Very neat gun. If I didn't live far away I would go up there and shoot with him.

He was telling me about the Kahn,now that sound like a BOOMer.He was saying that the Khan was comparble balisticaly to the 50 BMG the only thing it was lacking was FT/LBS.
BBJ