Pro-Line

My father is getting up there in years, and he shoots a Remington 600 Carbine in .308. The gun, with scope, is under 5 pounds. It packs a whallop like you wouldn't believe. Outkicks any gun we own...and that includes several "big bores."

He has shot 180 gr's for years...and I realize that this isn't helping the recoil. Can anybody reccomend a good 150gr (or smaller) for deer. How 'bout the 150gr BT's? Anybody shot ballistic tips out of a 308????

This is in addition to a newly installed recoil pad.

Thanks so much.

hornetguy

..If it were me, and my father, I would look at a premium type of bullet in the 130gr weight, and never give it a second thought. I read an article a couple of years back, suggesting that might be the best weight all around in 308 for whitetails. I'd try to load them to about 3000 fps maximum...perhaps even 2900...
another approach would be a 150gr bullet, but load it down to about 2500-2600 fps. Recoil would be much less than a full-house load, but you would still have the heavier bullet weight, if that is an issue. Heck, people kill deer all the time with the "hand-rifles" in 30 caliber, and they are probably getting more in the 2300fps range.

"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana

diyj98

Sierra makes a 125 grain SPBT that should work great on whitetail size game. I've gotten good accuracy out of the 150 grain ballistic tips in my 308. The Hornady Premium load shoots great for me.

PaJack

Pro-Line...The lighter the bullet the more powder is used. This means more recoil. Try a shoulder recoil pad...the kind you put over your shoulder for the big mag's,and stick with the 180's. Hope this helps...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hunt Safe!

Jack

diyj98

It depends upon how much powder. Generally factory loads or even maximum handloads will have noticeably more recoil with heavier bullets. He'll notice a big difference between 180 grain bullets and 125 grain bullets.

Pro-Line

PAJACK...That has not at all been my experience with factory loads. I have put over a thousand rounds through 3 rifles in the 270 to 30-06 range and I've found that the recoil is NOTICEABLY increased with the weight of the bullet. My 270 kicks like a 243 with some 110's I had loaded for it. You shoot the 150's and it turns into a 30-06.

The shells are for my father...who is, like I said, aging. I'd like to be able to shoot at our range more often, but the recoil is rough on him. It doesn't bother me, but I'm 30 pounds heavier and 35 years younger than him.







Edited by - Pro-Line on 09/19/2002 17:32:00

Quilly

i never knew that 308win's you can get in smaller grain sizes than 150.
when you shoot that monster buck you are not gonna feel that recoil.

yajsab

I shoot the BarnesX Federal load in 150 grn. I'm happy, and the recoil isn't that bad.

frizzellr

&quot;Pro-Line...The lighter the bullet the more powder is used. This means more recoil.&quot; Not quite accurate. Let's look at some numbers using the 308 Win and IMR 4895:
180 gr bullet 42.5 gr powder at 2540fps generates 22.79 ftlbs or recoil at 15.64fps in a 6lb rifle.

150 gr bullet 45.5 gr powder at 2880fps generates 22.03 ftlbs recoil at 15.38fps in a 6lb rifle.

110 gr bullet 49 gr powder at 3130fps generates 17.44 ftlbs recoil at 13.68fps in a 6lb rifle.