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Old 11-13-2004 | 01:26 AM
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I bought my 710 in ‘02 and I’ve put hundreds of rounds through it (quickly approaching the 1000 mark) and put lierally hundreds of pounds of venison in the freezer with it. It’s paid for itself at dinner time! Mine’s the .270 variety and after three years of shooting with it I can tell you that shooting sub-MOA groups happens more often than not!

Now, I’ve read here that some people think that the pressed barrel is asking for trouble. Apparently they’ve never heard of a German outfit called Anschutz that produces rifles with world class accuracy. They press their barrels and it seems to work for them. Now, I wouldn’t want to see that in a revolver due to the forces involved in the forcing cone “catching” the bullet rather than the chamber being a part of the barrel, but the difference there is pretty obvious.

I also read someone say, “with that bolt forget about quick follow up shots.” Well, until this year I really couldn’t tell you whether it made a difference or not because the dang thing is so accurate my deer died where I shot ‘em. This year I was hunting with a buddy in a ground blind and when he missed on a couple of deer I got to “clean up” once they where on the run. I can say with out reservation that that my follow up shots were so quick I don’t even recall cycling the gun, I just remember how easy it was to keep the deer in the scope. And that comes from weekly visits to the range no matter what kind of gun you shoot. In fact, another guy we were hunting with elsewhere on the property thought we’d brought a semi-auto to the stand. I’ve NEVER had the bolt come out in my hand (if this has happened to you I’d say check and make sure the lever on the left hand side of the receiver is DOWN…LOL!)

I think people are forgetting that this gun was designed to fill a niche in the market that was overlooked and now the others are catching on, that’s great. Remington was trying to make an affordable rifle without sacrificing accuracy and I think they hit that criteria with flying colors! I love my 710 and couldn’t imagine going to deer camp with out it. As far when the day comes that the barrel does wear out, well, I’ll be getting another 710 and it’ll cost me a lot less than re-barreling some over priced “French-poodle” pedigree rifle that I wouldn’t want to carry through the terrain my 710’s been though time and time again. But hey, from the looks of things I’m not going to have to worry about that for a long time to come.

The only complaint after breaking the gun in is the trigger pull. I’d like it to be a little smoother but I can’t say I’ve ever noticed it when I was looking at meat through the scope rather than paper.

I’ve put more venison on the table with my .270 cal 710 than my friend has with his $2000+ custom 7mm Mag! The venison to dollar ratio is pretty satisfactory to me! To each his own however! The shear number of posts here shows that there’s a lot of passion (on both sides of the fence) for this little Gem, err, Rem!

Oh, and as far as how it looks, I remember when a fella by the name of Eugene Stoner made a rifle with composite materials and “new age” metals and people laughed, that rifle later became known as the M-16. Things have a way of growing on ya!
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Old 11-13-2004 | 11:47 AM
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well put bilge and from a fellow michigander good luck this season.....Monday could not come soon enough.
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Old 11-13-2004 | 05:47 PM
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well if your happy with your 710 good for you! you are getting what you paid for it.

however if you can't handle the truth that the 710 is over priced, doesn't have a good barrel, doesn't have a good bolt "or anything else for that matter [:-] then you are kidding yourself my friend.

when i buy a rifle i want a rifle i can use all my life and some day want to hand it down to my son who hands it down to his. however i would be very lucky if the 710 would last me 5 years.


now you look at the savage 111FXP3. it has a decent bolt that is fairly smooth, great trigger, good barrel, and a scope that will at least get you through a season or two until you can get a better one. it also comes in A LOT more calibers then the 710. and i from what i have heard/seen the savage line of rifles will also shoot some pretty tight groups. all for about 30 or 50 bucks more then the 710. only complant i have with mine is the plastic trigger guard.

last year i wanted a rifle i could bring out to stand when the weather turned bad and when we where driveing deer in stuff so thick you can barrelly see your feet. by the way YES i have handled and shot a 710 and YES i do have a savage 111FXP3.
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Old 11-13-2004 | 05:51 PM
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also i would like to see how the 710 would hold up in Maine when the gun is half frozen or in africa in the blistering heat [] all i can say to those who try is they better bring a spare or two
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Old 11-13-2004 | 08:32 PM
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Well, I don't know about Africa but it shoots pretty well in the summer even when it's in the 90's. And at the other end of the spectrum, last year the morning of opening day it was 6 degrees BELOW zero and I had no propblems at all with gun or scope. So there's about a 100 degree spread for ya!

Edit: That was opening day in Minnesota when it was -6. A tough night in the tent!
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Old 11-13-2004 | 11:50 PM
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however if you can't handle the truth that the 710 is over priced, doesn't have a good barrel, doesn't have a good bolt "or anything else for that matter [:-] then you are kidding yourself my friend.

when i buy a rifle i want a rifle i can use all my life and some day want to hand it down to my son who hands it down to his. however i would be very lucky if the 710 would last me 5 years.
I'm not sure where all your hostility toward the 710 comes from. If you could quote the source of your information perhaps that would help me to understand where you're coming from. You state it's overpriced, compared to what? It doesn't have a good barrel, news to me. Doesn't have a good bolt, I beg to differ! With very few exceptions owners of 710's are quite pleased, for those that aren't, hey you can't please everyone but I haven't heard them saying these things are falling to pieces or blowing up or anything like that. I'm not coming to your door saying you've got to buy THIS rifle and get rid of everything else. Perhaps you're a die hard Savage fan, that's fine by me but don't berate my rifle with psudo-facts. Savage makes some decent firearms as far as I'm concerned. Heck, I was looking at the 111FXP3 Savage in .243 for my son. I figured it's lighter recoil would be ideal for starting out and even though many see it as only marginal for a humane kill, I disagree, I believe it's quite adequate for the task. Personally the 111FXP3 didn't appeal to me ergonomically or asthetically but my son seems to like it. I did however really like the AccuTrigger system. There are a lot more choices out there in this price range than there were nearly 3 years ago, again I think that's great news.

And as far as a rifle you can use all your life and hand down to your son who hands it down to his, well I think it'll be interesting to see how the 111FXP3 holds up. I personally don't see it as a potential heirloom even if could last that long and how many barrels do you think you'll have to put in it? Do you have any data on the the expected barrel life of your gun? 2000 rounds, 3000 rounds, what? How many rounds have you fired so far and how long have you owned it? I know I didn't buy my 710 for it's potential collectors value. I've got plenty of other firearms, including rifles, that are family heirlooms and I appreciate their quality and/or historic (if only from a family stand point) value. I do occasionally hunt with some but I don't shoot them nearly as often as the one's I buy so I won't wear them out.

I'm not "kidding myself" on anything. I look at it very realistically. Every firearm has a servicable life and I don't expect my 710 to be any different, but if you think your 111FXP3 is going to last three generations with continuous use then you may want to re-examine your logic. You've certainly put a lot of effort into telling us how the 710 is such junk and that they are all going to fall apart any day now. Well, I've put my rifle through a lot in all kinds of weather conditions over the past 2 1/2 years and put a lot of rounds through it and I have yet to experience ANY failures. Now get me a list of people who've owned 710's and had all the problems you describe and some data on these phantom failures, particularly failure rates compared to other rifles, then you've got a good start to a meaningful debate.
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Old 11-14-2004 | 09:56 AM
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I personally don't see it as a potential heirloom even if could last that long and how many barrels do you think you'll have to put in it?
it is in no way a heirloom and i am not at all a die heart savage fan just saying a savage is a much better gun that should last longer then the 710 and as far as how many barrels do i plan on putting on it? as many as i want to lets say next year remington drops the 710 from their line. your barrel wears out but you love that 710. guess what you CAN'T replace that barrel sorry. so now your great rifle serves no purpose. and IF all the 710's are as great as yours you won't be able to buy a used one because noone wants to get rid of theirs. now you can get a new rifle but geez that 710 is only a couple years old.

I'm not sure where all your hostility toward the 710 comes from. If you could quote the source of your information perhaps that would help me to understand where you're coming from
well some of my hostility comes from the facts above. and almost all of my information comes from first hand experence. i have handle a 710, i have shot a 710, and i have cycled their actions. the bolts are very loose and sloopy. i hate the way they handle because the stock is crap and i couldn't get a good grip on it when i tired. they don't shoot too bad but they certainly didn't break the sub MOA very often at least not the two i saw. one shot on average 1 1/2 inch the other held just above 1 inch some times and others shot 3 or 4 inch groups.

And as far as a rifle you can use all your life and hand down to your son who hands it down to his, well I think it'll be interesting to see how the 111FXP3 holds up
well lets see when my stock falls apart 20 years from now i can replace it, when my barrel is shot out 3-5 years from now i can replace it, when it is still shooting sub MOA 20 years down the road i will be very happy with my purchase. and like i said the 710 is only half decent until it falls apart. then you either can't fix it, or can't replace it.

just my .02 cents however don't think i don't know anything about the 710 because i do
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Old 11-21-2004 | 04:09 AM
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Ive been deer hunting since 1981 when I used my fathers model 70 winchester 30.06. 3 years ago I decided to retire that rifle & use something else. Unfortunatly I was laid off from my job at that time and money was tight. I looked at Savage and it didnt feel right, I picked up the remington 710 and it felt good. Yes I thought the grey stock is ugly, but who cares. I liked the clip & the price. I bought it, took it home and sighted it in, at 200 yrds I can put 4 shots in a 50 cent piece, just as accurate as the winchester, but alot cheaper. My only complaints about the rifle are Plastic trigger guard seems cheap, bolt feels strange until you get used to it, scope is cheap, works OK but nothing great, Ive since gone back to work and replaced with a weaver and I like it very much. I dont shoot it alot just a couple weeks during deer season, but Ive taken 4 deer, 2 right in the same time, all I have to say is where can you buy model 700 brand new for $330.00 .
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Old 11-21-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Btibb57, wow, what a coincidence, another first time poster with one shot groups. Has to be something to it.

Goto your local walmart webpage. I believe you can get ADL's under 400.

Yep, go to http://www.walmart.com/search/search...+500000.500592
 
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Old 11-21-2004 | 07:07 PM
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Our esteemed first time posters have established the fact that the 710 will always and without exception is capable of shooting sub-MOA.

If the 710 is consistantly able to produce such outstanding accuracy then we all better buy our's now before the benchrest professionals buy them all.
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