I agree with Slugman on theH&R.

the 870 is a nice gun but I like my Ithica 12ga. with it' s fixed rifled barrel and burris scope. it' ll put em all back in the box at 100yrds. with room to spare. Now if you don' t want to bruise your shoulder all up. them 11-87' s and 1100' s are soft shooters

Look at the mossberg 695 a frind of mine has one and he hunt with it in plases where he can us a rifel and it shoots like a rifel as will her in ohio all we can us is shoot guns to and if I where to get a new slug gun it would be a 695 right now I us a mossberg 500 and like will good luck