buying a premium big game rifle?
07-25-2009, 06:19 AM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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this is what kirby's rifles are capable of
this deer was taken with a chipshot at 702 yards, if you decide to push the 7mm Allen Mag, this is easily achievable
total investment including a 6.5x20 mark IV loopy, a PDA running exbal, a kestrel 2800, dies, and 100 lapua brass was 3100.00.
RR
this is what kirby's rifles are capable of
this deer was taken with a chipshot at 702 yards, if you decide to push the 7mm Allen Mag, this is easily achievable
total investment including a 6.5x20 mark IV loopy, a PDA running exbal, a kestrel 2800, dies, and 100 lapua brass was 3100.00.
RR
that rifle isnt practical in the north east. at 1,350yds seems you coulda picked out a little smaller deer hahaha
07-25-2009, 09:34 AM
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07-25-2009, 09:20 PM
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Fork Horn
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The Weatherby is a fine rifle, I have long lust after a Mark V .257. If it's truly what you want far be it from me to tell you otherwise.
However, with a couple grand on the line I send my money to Kirby Allen everytime. I have spoken with him about building me a Lightweight on a Borden action. Half the cost of a Jarrett and It will flat embarass a just about everything else accuracy wise. Gunwerks? well, their well promoted.
However, with a couple grand on the line I send my money to Kirby Allen everytime. I have spoken with him about building me a Lightweight on a Borden action. Half the cost of a Jarrett and It will flat embarass a just about everything else accuracy wise. Gunwerks? well, their well promoted.
07-26-2009, 05:22 AM
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Ask yourself one question,that being that if the Weatherby Mark V is such a good rifle,why does Weatherby only offer a three shot into 1-1/2" accuracy guarantee for the Mark V,when they offer a three shot into 1" accuracy guarantee on their lower priced Vanguard MOA?
Sako offers a five shot into 1" accuracy guarantee while even Tikka demands three shots into 1".
H-S Precision offers a 1/2" guarantee on some models,and Cooper offers a 1/2" accuracy guarantee for about the same price as a Weatherby Mark V deluxe.
Sako offers a five shot into 1" accuracy guarantee while even Tikka demands three shots into 1".
H-S Precision offers a 1/2" guarantee on some models,and Cooper offers a 1/2" accuracy guarantee for about the same price as a Weatherby Mark V deluxe.
07-26-2009, 05:49 AM
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Ask yourself one question,that being that if the Weatherby Mark V is such a good rifle,why does Weatherby only offer a three shot into 1-1/2" accuracy guarantee for the Mark V,when they offer a three shot into 1" accuracy guarantee on their lower priced Vanguard MOA?
Sako offers a five shot into 1" accuracy guarantee while even Tikka demands three shots into 1".
H-S Precision offers a 1/2" guarantee on some models,and Cooper offers a 1/2" accuracy guarantee for about the same price as a Weatherby Mark V deluxe.
Sako offers a five shot into 1" accuracy guarantee while even Tikka demands three shots into 1".
H-S Precision offers a 1/2" guarantee on some models,and Cooper offers a 1/2" accuracy guarantee for about the same price as a Weatherby Mark V deluxe.
/www.weatherby.com/videogallery
have a look at how well these things are made stubble jumper
07-26-2009, 06:08 AM
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have a look at how well these things are made stubble jumper
And as I previously posted,I have personally owned two Weatherby Mark V rifles,so I am well aware of the quality,or lack thereof.
I have owned Sako rifles,and I currently own a Cooper rifle,both have better fit and finish than my Weatherby rifles did.In fact the Cooper rifle is far superior in design,fit and finish,and accuracy wise for a price comparable to a Mark V.
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07-26-2009, 11:30 AM
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One last concern - remember to add up each ounce of weight (56MM scope ?) and ask yourself do you want to carry that around all day in the mountains ?
07-28-2009, 06:50 AM
#20
Fork Horn
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Sounds like a nice set up. I had a Weatherby Deluxe in .300 wby mag that shoot under an inch at 100 yards as long as I did my part. I sold it to get an Accumark in .300 wby mag and it shoots well under an inch as well. I went with the Accumark because I did not want to have to baby a wood model any longer. I also think the Deluxe is about as good looking model as it gets with the Steyr Mannlicher SBS being close. I also shot another MarkV in .300 before I bought mine and it was a tight grouping gun. I don't remember all the details though. Since it's not a bench rest rifle you are after, the accuracy should be fine under hunting conditions where you won't be firing from a bench with bags. You never know what position you might be in when you need to fire the gun. The gun and cartridge is proven world wide on game like no other combination.
It's on the large/heavy side for something like deer. You could always use a load like what Nosler offers with their 150gr AccuBond. Shells do cost a bit, but then so does most other premium magnum loads. The good thing is that you can get more money back for your Weatherby brass than most other magnum loads buy selling them to re loaders.
For $2000.00 plus for a scope, I would look at something from Schmidt&Bender, Swarovski, or Zeiss.
The Sako is a fine rifle and I have a 75. They are well made as well but no better than the Weatherby. My Weatherby has a smoother and tighter action than my Sako 75. I have .002" of play with the Weatherby and .005" with the Sako. They both have very good triggers that can be adjusted and break clean. The synthetic stock on my Sako is not even close to the quality of stock on my Accumark. The both do fit the action and the trigger nice and tight with their line matching up. The Sako 75 is lighter in weight and has a nice palm swell.
I really like both and have each topped off with Zeiss Conquests 4.5x14x44mm. The Weatherby has Leupold rings and bases and the Sako has the Sako Opti Lock rings and bases.
The Weatherby Vangaurd MOA's are hand selected because they shoot to that level and then get the MOA floor plate and name. Otherwise they are the same as the other Vangaurd's.
Get the setup that works the best for yourself or what you like. What works for me, may not for you.
It's on the large/heavy side for something like deer. You could always use a load like what Nosler offers with their 150gr AccuBond. Shells do cost a bit, but then so does most other premium magnum loads. The good thing is that you can get more money back for your Weatherby brass than most other magnum loads buy selling them to re loaders.
For $2000.00 plus for a scope, I would look at something from Schmidt&Bender, Swarovski, or Zeiss.
The Sako is a fine rifle and I have a 75. They are well made as well but no better than the Weatherby. My Weatherby has a smoother and tighter action than my Sako 75. I have .002" of play with the Weatherby and .005" with the Sako. They both have very good triggers that can be adjusted and break clean. The synthetic stock on my Sako is not even close to the quality of stock on my Accumark. The both do fit the action and the trigger nice and tight with their line matching up. The Sako 75 is lighter in weight and has a nice palm swell.
I really like both and have each topped off with Zeiss Conquests 4.5x14x44mm. The Weatherby has Leupold rings and bases and the Sako has the Sako Opti Lock rings and bases.
The Weatherby Vangaurd MOA's are hand selected because they shoot to that level and then get the MOA floor plate and name. Otherwise they are the same as the other Vangaurd's.
Get the setup that works the best for yourself or what you like. What works for me, may not for you.