If you haven't tried them yet you should. We bought a box for my .450 this weekend and once we got it sighted in they were shooting 1" groups at 100 yards with two of the shots touching. I want to try them on my .35 and see if they shoot as well in it. I can't wait to see what they will do to a hog. The dead tree we had the target nailed to was shaking when they hit it. We were also shooting a 30-06 and the tree wouldn't move when they hit. The .450 seems to hit just as hard at both ends.

I've been using them in my .444 for a couple of months. So far, so good!

I have shot 6 of them through my Marlin 30-30 at 50 yards just to get an idea where they would hit. Good, 1" groups, both of them. I will try out at 100 yards and then maybe a couple at 200 yards int he near future as well.

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