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New Remington 710 rifle
I looked at one of the new Remington 710 rifles at Walmart the other day. It is the one with the all steel receiver and has no synthetic insert. The bolt was really smooth and probably get even smoother with use. I like the short throw of the bole and the stock isnt bad either. I also like the magazine fed design for quick loading.I had one of the older ones in 30-06 and it was extremely accurate as well as a friends rifle in the same caliber. His would put 3 shots in an inch at 100 yards with factory winchester 165 powerpoints. The price was only 329.00 with the Bushnell scope. I know this scope isnt the most expensive but mine was accurate and clear and didnt fail me after many rounds. They have the full size in .270,30-06, 300 magnum, and 7mm magnum. They also have a new shorter youth model in .243. I may get one in .270 or .243. Its really not that bad. You should check it out next time you see one.
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Its really not that bad. |
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The all steel receiver on the new ones were put there to try to sell this turn to traditional sportsmen who belive that receivers should be made of metal. All the steel receiver does on the 710 is add more weight. The bolt actually cams into barrel, not the receiver on the 710- no pressure is put on the receiver due to firing.
For cheap, good, accurate, I'd get a stevens model 200, or better yet, its better big brother the savage 110. |
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I've had a 710 for the last couple of years and I like mine. It's .30-06, but I normally shoot the Remington Managed Recoil ammo so that my daughter (13) can handle it. Never did understand what the big dot deal was with the nylon receiver insert. Just one less piece to rust and less prone to the effects of weather. My son tagged a nice 8-pt this past season. It was his first deer and he got it on his first time out in his 4th year of hunting.
I looked at the Savage package gun when I was shopping for my 710. At the time the Savage didn't have the removable magazine and has a less comfortable stock. My poor little red-headed stepchild rifle. :( |
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I have a 710 that's currently in pieces. After three years of shooting and hunting - with good success - the rifle started falling apart. First,the bolt stop failed and during a class I took last fall the bolt came out during an excersize and hit me in the chin. Painful and embarrasing.Next, I lost the threads ona scope rail screw. Managed to live with the first problem and fix the second in time for last hunting seasonin which I drew a great Elk tag. First day out the mag latch broke. Had to load the rifle from the top and couldn't get the mag out until I was back home. The good news isI dropped a nice 5x5 at 300 yards with one shot. The gun does shoot. But then I looked into replacing the mag latch, which should be a $2 part. Turns out Remmy doesn't sell the piece seperately, gotta buy the whole stock at $95. A local gunsmith is trying to the get the company to replace the stock under warranty for me. That's been two months ago, and no word back. Meanwhile, I've bougt a new rifle. It's not a Remmington. I'll use the 710 as a backup if I ever get it back together and shootin' straight again.Or maybe I'll trade it for a box of ammo....
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I got the 710 myself. I was comparing the savage model as well since they were both at Dicks Sporting Goods. I just didn't like the savage's feel. I have the .270 gauge. I took it to get the bolt lapped and trigger job at 3lbs. I tell you for the money you just can't complain about the gun.
The only negative I have with it was with the bolt which is better since getting it lapped and the magazine. Just doesn't feel good and tight into the stock. But all in all its a very good package for the money. |
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I have a 710 that's currently in pieces. After three years of shooting and hunting - with good success - the rifle started falling apart. First, the bolt stop failed and during a class I took last fall the bolt came out during an excersize and hit me in the chin. Painful and embarrasing. Next, I lost the threads on a scope rail screw. Managed to live with the first problem and fix the second in time for last hunting season in which I drew a great Elk tag. First day out the mag latch broke. Had to load the rifle from the top and couldn't get the mag out until I was back home. The good news is I dropped a nice 5x5 at 300 yards with one shot. The gun does shoot. But then I looked into replacing the mag latch, which should be a $2 part. Turns out Remmy doesn't sell the piece seperately, gotta buy the whole stock at $95.A local gunsmith is trying to the get the company to replace the stock under warranty for me. That's been two months ago, and no word back. Meanwhile, I've bougt a new rifle. It's not a Remmington. I'll use the 710 as a backup if I ever get it back together and shootin' straight again. Or maybe I'll trade it for a box of ammo.... IMHO they are expenisve boat anchors. |
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I consider myself to be a "thrifty" person, to say the least!
So, I'm not trying to sound snooty, but, when it comes to the Remington 710 I have only one word, "JUNK!" |
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I don't own a 710 and don't plan on getting one any time soon, but if you own one and you're happy with it, then I'm happy for you.:)
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ORIGINAL: North Texan but if you own one and you're happy with it, then I'm happy for you.:) You will find many posts saying that the 710's, and 597's, along with the "penny scopes" have been excellent! I consider myself "thrifty," if not down right "cheap!" But where "value" comes in, there are MUCH better guns for the money than the 710's! Again, in a word, JUNK!" (at any price!) |
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I would tend to agree with most of the people on this post... I would never buy a Remington 710. They were designed as a cheap alternative to the higher end 700's. With this in mind my thinking would tell me that they used lower tolerances, cheaper methods, and lower quality craftmanship to manufacture this rifle. Dont get me wrong I own a Remington 700 and will never get rid of it! It is the best rifle I have ever owned! I just wish that Remington could offer the quality of a 700 series at a cheaper price... Then again you get what you pay for!
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Personally the 710 I had was finished as well if not better than most savages out there for comparison. I only use them for comparisonbecause alot of people buy them and they are not that glamorous of a rifle.If you dont get the stainless or the top of the line model the finish on them is not to be desired. Looks like they were investmentcast then never finished. Rough edges everywhere, and the barrel nutis frightening.Even the stainlesshas a rough appearance.I know of one Savage rifle that cracked behind the recoil lug on the synthetic stock and the pin that holds the bolthead assembly on broke into.The stock on the 710 doesnt look cheap as the synthetic on the savage i saw.One guy at the range couldnt figure out why his rifle wouldnt go forward and lock up tofire and it was because the nut on the back of the bolt had backed off and the bushing in front of it was out of alignment. Why does savage have to have so many parts on their bolts anyhow. Its just one more part they can sell for replaement I guess.You know when rifle companies put out something that is cheaper in price they have to cut corners. All the manufacturers have to. The nicest rifle Savage has put out in awhile is the new Classic line, but look at the price also. I know they are accurate but so it the 710. I havent had bad luck with it. I know there are some savage owners out there with problems also. All rifle companies have problems every once in awhile. I was just saying in my original post the newer remington is not that bad, but really it looked even better than the first one I had. Where else can you get a rifle with a detatchable magazine, crowned muzzle, in magnum calibers,a short bolt throw due to abolt with three lugs not two that locks up with the button rifledbarrel, scope and mounts,and if im not mistaken it does have the R3 recoil pad. The .300 win mag was just 329.99 I saw. Its not a bad deal.I can only imagine what the Stevens rifles look like if they are theeconomical line for Savage. I know the resale value on the 710 is low, but the resale value on just aboutany of the newerusedSavage bolt rifles is terrible and I see alot for sale out there for next to nothing. If you dont like the 710 the that is your choice. Ifyou have never usedoneyou are only basing an opinion from others that have and thentheymay havebeen that one in a thousand for gettinga riflewith problems.
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AmericanPioneer, I have shot both the remington 710, and the savage 110. Althought the savage is the rifle i bought, we still need to compare guns to the money we spend on them. The 710 is a great rifle for the money. All guns may have thier flaws but ones that we pay over 500 dollars on, should never be compared to a 710. Once again the 710 is good for the money....and competes well with its own price range.
P.S so far the Savage has shot great for me. And although many people say it looks ugly...I seem to think its beautiful. I got the savage GXP3 package. |
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I know there are going to be alot of opinions out there and that is why there are forums for just that. I justfind it humerous intheskepticism of those who probably have never used or even handled a firearm they trash so heavily. Its likethat commercial where the people find outthata person in control of a situation aresupposedly welleducatedat a profession like a helicopter pilot saving them,only to find out they juststayed in a Holiday Inn last night.:D
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When i was buying mylatest rifle, i looked at the 710 just for the price. It was $329 with scope. I then picked up a winchester M70 with scope that was $359. So for $30 more, the 710 wasn't even in the same zip code. I found it cheap, ugly and poorly build IMO. I pulled back the bolt and it stuck at full draw. It wasn't smooth. The M70 was like butterand of much better quality. I thought to myself, how can Remmy put out such a rifle. If anything, it turned me off to remmington in a big way. I recently purchased another rifle (Savage) as a backup. the 110 with scope cost $350 and once again, the 710 wasn't even close in initial quality. It may shoot well, but the 710 should be $99 and no more. I am no rifle expert, but i have learned alot over the last few years and i would never buy a 710. As i said, i think it's way over priced as it is when you can get a savage or Winny M70for the same or slightly more.
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I'm sorry to be so ignorant, but could someone explain how "ugly" affects the performance of the 710 - or any other rifle? Does a non-ugly firearm shoot better or just give you some form of arousal to fondle a bunch of fine wood and shiny metal that causes you to be more accurate?
Do some require this same form of arousal when handling a screwdriver or shovel? Are your lawn tools made of engraved metal and fine walnut handles? Vanity has a price....and a lot of people willing to pay for it. This explains the morons driving around with a set of chrome wheels with pretty little spinning hubcaps that are worth more than the car. (oops....sorry for the sarcasm....well, not really) ;) |
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ugly is always in the eye of the beholder, however, if i am going to spend hundreds on a rifle i will look for something that is worth that kind of money from end to end. If there were NO alternatives to the 710, then i wouldn't have any other option. I just feel the overall package needs to be worth something. And the grey plastic just screams "I am a cheap rifle".
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I'm no gun snob. If I was I wouldn't own and shoot the milsurps I have. I alsowouldn't like the Savages either. The problem I have with the 710 isthat its the Bic Lighter of the gun world. Shoot them for a few years till they start falling apart and then chuck it and get a new one. Problem is, $329.00 is a lot for a throw-away. Especialy when you can buy a Savagefor the same or less. I could go for one at about $150, but you'll never see them priced that low. They shoot well enough but they're defintely not built to last. They're also clunky and cumbersome. Whatever floats your boat.
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Have you ever owned one of the older orNEW Remington 710 rifles or are youjust basing your opinion on what others put in print. And if youhave ownedone, was itlong enough to see it break down and wear out to a point of having to dispose of it like a bic lighter. The bic lighter is one of the more popular lighters out there also. You'll find thousands being sold everywhere which is a testament of a cheaper made product being as reliable as another but at a savings to the consumer. It gets the job done without making the customer suffer in their wallets. If thats the case then it served its purpose.
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If you've got a gun and you like it, why does it matter what somebody else on an internet forum thinks?
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I'm not going to get into a pi$$ing match here. I'm never going to own a 710 unless someone hands me one for free. I've held more than one and I've never been impressed. Two different gunsmiths have told me their opinions also. They didn't much care for them either. Bic lighters work just fine, but they're disposable...like a 710. A Bic lighter costs less than $2.00. I don't mind throwing something away that costs so little after its been used up, but at $329.00, I don't find the 710 so inexpensive. Not when you consider what your getting for that money. Like I said, whatever floats your boat.
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True and nough said. I dont want to argue over something like this. hatchet is buried.
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these arent exactly new anymore they have been around for about 6 years now. they are ok guns but for the price you can get a better model M700 for just a bit more. also you might look at a stevens model 200 which is a way better rifle then a 710 and are priced about 100 bucks cheaper.
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I think I'll paint my gray stock on my 710 black and then it might qualify for "non-ugly" status, as the Savage apparently suffers from no such label as "ugly".
I looked at both the 710 and the Savage 110 packages when I bought my 710. The Savage struck out on a couple of things: 1) no detachable magazine 2) didn't like the "squared-off" stock of the 110 vs the more rounded 710 (on of those "fit" issues, don't you know!) As for a 700 being a "bit more", unless you consider an additional $200 more (66%) for a Rem 700 over the 710, then it's significantly more. The cheapest 700 I could find was $450 without a scope. Tack on another $50 (minimum) for a scope, and we're easily in the $500+ range. That's a very minimal cost - most of you would probably cringe at paying only $50 for even a basic scope. I would expect most would be more inclined to the $100+ range for a scope, thus pushing the cost for a 700 & scope to almost double the price of a 710. But, like somebody said....whatever floats your boat. |
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There are new versions of the 710 out. I guess most people dont get out enough or read anymore. They are refined and I liked the first one I bought and I like the new ones even better. If you take the word of some gunsmiths you might be in hot water as most are biased anyhow. I took a concealed carry course and all this gunsmith said over and over is buy a smith , buy a smith. Sure they are great guns but not all can afford them. Holding a gun and using a gun are two different things. If people didntjust rely on how something looked or felt, there would be alot less Edsel owners out there. Now they are collector items.I have actually seen a broken savage bolt and stock, and the rough finish on them. I used one about 7years ago. I actually used one and didnt take the advise of a gunsmith or comments of others.Thats why I dont buy them anymore. If the main pin that holds the bolt headassembly breaks twiceand the syntheticstock crumbles eventually under recoil then i have the right to say, "Hey, I think this gun is junk". If I used a710 and itnothing breaks, is extremely accurate, and serves its purpose for the money I paid for it,I can say its a great buy and reccomend or comment on its pluses or minuses.If you dont have an experience with something others are talking aboutthen dont comment and downgrade it. If youcan come up with somesticks and stones then comment to your hearts content but words without backing are useless in a discussion. She said or he said sounds like 1st graders telling on someone to theirteacher.:DNow Im done with this issue.
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ORIGINAL: xd9x19 I think I'll paint my gray stock on my 710 black and then it might qualify for "non-ugly" status, as the Savage apparently suffers from no such label as "ugly". I looked at both the 710 and the Savage 110 packages when I bought my 710. The Savage struck out on a couple of things: 1) no detachable magazine 2) didn't like the "squared-off" stock of the 110 vs the more rounded 710 (on of those "fit" issues, don't you know!) As for a 700 being a "bit more", unless you consider an additional $200 more (66%) for a Rem 700 over the 710, then it's significantly more. The cheapest 700 I could find was $450 without a scope. Tack on another $50 (minimum) for a scope, and we're easily in the $500+ range. That's a very minimal cost - most of you would probably cringe at paying only $50 for even a basic scope. I would expect most would be more inclined to the $100+ range for a scope, thus pushing the cost for a 700 & scope to almost double the price of a 710. But, like somebody said....whatever floats your boat. well from the prices available to me a remington m700 sps is only 80 bucks more then a model 710 yea the 710 comes with a cheapy 40 dollar bushnell scope and the m700 sps doesnt come with a scope at all, just throw another 40 bucks in and put the same cheapy bushnell scope (that one every walmart in the nation carries) on the m700 sps and it would only be 120 bucks more all together IMO that is a small price to pay for twice the gun. |
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I was in Wal-mart yesterday and they had a version of the Rem 700 for $354. I didn't take a close look at it, but it had a black sythetic stock, no detachable magazine and no scope. Must have been one of the discontinued ADL models. From browsing Remington's web site, it appears the ADL has been replaced by the 700SPS, but the ADL had open sights while the SPS doesn't.
I didn't notice a clearance tag on the rifle, but it must be marked down because when I went shopping for my rifle, the lowest-priced 700 model Wal-mart and Bass-Pro had was around $450. So if anybody is looking for a Rem 700, you might check your local Wal-mart or other stores to see if they've got them marked down. I probably would have sprung for the 700 with the current price difference, but right now the next thing on my list will be a Springfield 1903 from the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program). Got to get one before they're gone for good. |
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but right now the next thing on my list will be a Springfield 1903 from the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program). Got to get one before they're gone for good. |
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I have a smith corona 03-A3 variant and it didnt come from cmp. my dad bought it surplus back in the 70's for 60 bucks. its immaculate its in 99% + condition has one little ding in the stock other then that its perfect. I shot in a vintage war rifle match 2 years ago with it I took second place the guy who beat me was shooting a K98 mauser. After the match I had sevral offers I guess this gun would go for a couple thousand from the offers I got. Ill never sell my dads rifle though I'll keep it and pass it on to my son.
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I have a 710 in the 270 flavor and it has been a good gun. No problems here whatsoever. As a matter of fact my first day out with it I popped a nice buck at about 100 yards. I guess that I can see why a lot of people have complaints with thiers. It probably isnt the best gun to expect to take a beating, I take pretty good care of mine and try not to beat it up since it is plastic and pretty cheaply made. But I think that if you are aware of this (and a person should be since you are getting a pretty feature rich gun for under $400) then it should last a long time. I did pick up a Winchester Model 670 this year though to replace my 710 though, but I have no plans on getting rid on the 710 since it is a pretty nice backup gun.
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I hate to sound like typical Magnum_Man, but the 710 is a terrible rifle, I had a friend who owned one and he shot it alot, the gun was no longer useable after 1 season, apparently, some internal parts snapped on the bolt, and the cheap stock started to crack something terrible. IMHO get the Savage Package rifle, it can be ordered from Wal Mart for about 30$ more, it will last a lot longer and probably shoot a lot better.
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If you have one and like it thats great but like some of the other guys i was very disapointed in remington arms,for this rifle.I set and mount scopes for friends and family and some strangers as well .and i actually bought one for my son in 300 mag ,it was fine till it was fired when you tried to bolt the spent case it was so tight it took two guys to hold it and one to bolt it .So it went back and several more i worked on had simalar problems in 270 win 30-06 spring.but i know a couple of guys who have had no problems.
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ORIGINAL: AmericanPioneer I looked at one of the new Remington 710 rifles at Walmart the other day. It is the one with the all steel receiver and has no synthetic insert. The bolt was really smooth and probably get even smoother with use. I like the short throw of the bole and the stock isnt bad either. I also like the magazine fed design for quick loading.I had one of the older ones in 30-06 and it was extremely accurate as well as a friends rifle in the same caliber. His would put 3 shots in an inch at 100 yards with factory winchester 165 powerpoints. The price was only 329.00 with the Bushnell scope. I know this scope isnt the most expensive but mine was accurate and clear and didnt fail me after many rounds. They have the full size in .270,30-06, 300 magnum, and 7mm magnum. They also have a new shorter youth model in .243. I may get one in .270 or .243. Its really not that bad. You should check it out next time you see one. Model 710™ Product Safety Warning and Recall Notice |
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The other recall is for rifles made between July and October 2002. It's an OLD recall and unless you bought one used or end up with a 710 that's been sitting in the racks for almost 4 years, it's not a current issue (you can enter your 710's serial number on the site to determine if yours needs a fix). Remington Arms Company, Inc. is voluntarily recalling a limited number of Model 710 bolt-action rifles as a result of its discovery, during routine test firing, that some Model 710 rifles manufactured between July and October 2002 may have been assembled with an improperly made "Safety Detent Spring." |
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Remington has built some good lower line rifles over the years including the 788,the sportsman 78 and now the 700sps.However the 710 was a mistake that certainly hurt remingtons reputation.
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i will gladly pay DOUBLE even TRIPLE for something that will last a lifetime vs spending a little on something that very likely may fail in a season, or two... that is just a good investment.... money is tight... but if at all possible... save the pennies until you have enough... i've handle, cycled, inspected and shot enough 710's to know that none will go in my gun safe in my lifetime... on the other hand i have at least one 700 that is getting rather close to 40 years old and has never so much as had a hiccup... but we all think differently... just remember, you get what you pay for...
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Had a friend that bought one. Even for an econo model rifle my impression was, "Wow, what a POS." After a short while it actual got to where a lead tip bullet would not feed from the magazine. The tip would snag and not slip up and into the barrel. IMHO the Savage 110 is a much more reliable rifle in the same price range and despite being pretty cheap the Savages are actually accurate rifles as well. Another inexpensive rifle that gives a lot of quality for the dollar is a Howa. Not as easy to find but well built rifles for a good price.
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Hmmm, if you get what you pay for, do I correctly assume that the vehicles most board members drive are either Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Lexus, Infiniti, etc.? Maybe Escalades or Navigators or LT1s (Lincoln p/u)? :eek:
As for me, some things you do get what you pay for, so I bought a Honda Ridgeline instead of a Ford, Chevy or Dodge. Figure it's better to put a little more money into a vehicle on the front end instead of going through various recalls over the years. My family thought the world was coming to an end when I bought a "foreign" car, but according to the parts content listing on the sticker, my Ridgeline is more American (75%) than the (overpriced) Chevy Avalanches (65%) I looked at. Can't wait to throw my 710-shot deer in the back of my Ridgeline.....lots better than the back of a '96 Windstar that I've been driving since I started hunting 5 years ago. P.S. On a side note, I did upgrade my shotgun from a Remmy 870 Express to a Franchi I-12 just over a year ago. The I-12 doesn't kill them any deader than the 870, but does come in handier when shooting clays. |
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As for me, some things you do get what you pay for, so I bought a Honda Ridgeline instead of a Ford, Chevy or Dodge. |
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