I have tried the HSS vest but took it back as the vest was very heavy. I think it would be ideal if it were lighter as it wasn't any fun wearing it in the hotter months. I use the belt that came with my summit viper. I like it but it is cumbersome at best to put on as it always gets tangled up in my pack. I did fall out of a stand once while wearing it and my only drawback is that when you are suspended in the air it is hard to get undone and hug the tree down. I think that if you wore it under your outer garment and fell you might be in a bit of a bind trying to get out of it and hug your way down the tree. I use mine like most people and put it under my clothing with just the teather coming out but really would like another way to use it. Just my 2 cents.

Seat O the Pants is the one that I have found to be the best. Excellent fit and comfortable and doesn't interfere with shooting. Can't tell that I even have it on in the stand.

arkansasbowhunter,

They make an all mesh hunter safety system for those hotter climates as well as a smaller lighter version. Check out the link on my last post. I for one don't even think about the weight because it's a vest and it just adds another layer of clothing. If I was wearing just a harness (like I used to) I would have to put on another layer of clothes so I think it's a wash as far as weight goes. In the early season (Oct, Nov.) I just wear a few layers under it and during the colder months (Dec. Jan.) I wear a heavy jacket over it.

I never thought of trying to get out of my harness if I fell, I just figured I could reach over to my ladder and get back my footing. Something to think about I guess. I hope I never find myself in that situation. Either way the vest adjusts so I could wear it over my heavy jacket if I want to.

I have the vest version of the seat of the pants. I have the strap one and it was fine but with the vest I can put my rope and some other lightweight things in it and not have to carry a pack in anymore. If you want, I'll sell you my strap version for less than you can buy one anywhere else. It was used about 5 times, I've never fallen with it, and its in perfect condition. If you or anyone else is interested just email me. Good luck with whatever you get, they are important things to have in my opinion.



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