I have the vest version of the seat of the pants. I have the strap one and it was fine but with the vest I can put my rope and some other lightweight things in it and not have to carry a pack in anymore. If you want, I'll sell you my strap version for less than you can buy one anywhere else. It was used about 5 times, I've never fallen with it, and its in perfect condition. If you or anyone else is interested just email me. Good luck with whatever you get, they are important things to have in my opinion.



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