So what about the other 98% of traditional shooters who would also be opposed to xbows in archery season? What will you say when you lose you "hypocrisy" argument?

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Data you wouldn't see a negative reason if it fell from the sky and landed on your face, then wiggled. And please .. the compound to crossbow argument is HORRIBLE.. it's not valid. You are arguing the similarities in diffeent weapons, like ML's and shotguns .. without seein gthat they are different.

Well .. someone has to Silent, because in your neighborhood he'd be A gangbanging druggy, probably with knife wounds and a few bullets holes ... all of course because guys like me won't let shoot a crossbow during archery season.

You are right, the firearm season. But you can't use the rifle or pistol during muzzleloader season .. and they are similar, right? Oh yeah .. ALL states have broken their seasons down by weapon types .....

No one is advocating that someone should break the law. I am advocating that you guys reconsider and give little Johnny the right to hunt during the archery season. I fail to see why little Johnny shold have to wait and I fail to see why you or anyone else for that matter should have more rights to the woods than little Johnny and most importantly I fail to see why anyone that is truely a hunter would want to institute regulations that wold keep people form entering the sport of bowhunting considering hunters in general lost about 2 million members in the last 10 years.
i agree with that 100% though I don't see how it has any bearing on this conversation.

That's why we need to give little Johnny a chance to get in the woods and off the street. You act like it's my fault that we have those problems in America. I am trying to give our youths something to do to help fix the problems. What are you doing? I mean besides standing in their way of a safe recreational alternative?

I'm 6'4" 325lbs I have a 82in wingspand (they like long arms on the o-line) I shoot a 33in draw Browning boss tracker. (fantastic bow btw)

I used to bench press well over 530lbs (no steroids) I'm just a big pasta eating Italian.

Alas, I'm getting older and things tend to hurt more and more. I still lift every day but I have learned to put my ego aside and lower the weight. Sucks getting old.

BigJ, that is absolutely not true. You CAN agree there are differneces between traditional and compund bows, and then accept there are differences between compounds and crossbows and they may be equally great. But drawing the conclusion from that then ALL bows are equal to crossbows is crazy.

If A = Traditional
and B = Compound

Then A-B=X

So B= Compound
and C= Crossbow

Then B-C = Y

X does not equal Y!!! Because you compare a compund and a crossbow doesn't make it a bow.

Your check book must be a messy thing....


After reading your last post... I meant MR.BigJ....

You can use a muzzloader in our regular gun season or our shotgun season but in all actuality when they came up with the seperate seasons for muzzloaders there was a tremendous difference in their range and performance to that of modern firearms and that's why the distinction was made. Now that muzzloading as we know it has transofrmed to what it has there is no longer the need for the two seperate seasons. The transofrmation of muzzloaders kind of reminds you of the transformation of the compound over the years doesn't it

I agree 100% with you. The ML to firearm debate is exactly the same in my opinion. Their range and effectiveness are almost identical. I of course like the seperate seasons .. I imagine you'd want rifle and pistol shooters be able to hunt the ML season .. or just combine the seasons.

I actually think they should combine the seasons . There is nothing primative about muzzloaders anymore so why not lump them in with firearms since they have similar performance. I am fine with giving crossbows their own season. I just think the time shold be taken from the archery season and split down the middle and rotated so everyone gets a shot at the rut. Ultimately that would be stupid but if the compounders and trad hunters insist on seperate seasons then that's the way it should because they don't have anymore rights than the crossbowers IMO.