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RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows

well see as far as me calling i could give 2 sh1t5 less what they do. im gonna hunt with the compound and if i see anyone with a crossbow im gonna be nice and go about my way and try and get my deer. as far as the anti hunters the he11 with them too. as far as peta he11 with them too. as far as anyone not having a logical reason to ban hunting well yep u called it, he11 with them too. basically he11 with any kind of arguments that involves something stupid when its someone's choice. im not siding with anyone cuz i think its whoever's choice to use whatever they want to use within legal limitations

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that said reply to u doube creek my bad, thats just reply in general. not pointing the arrow in your direction........... no pun intended

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im not siding with anyone cuz i think its whoever's choice to use whatever they want to use within legal limitations

I agree with you 100% but their are some idiots that run our governement and I think it's far too dangerous for hunters to raise a stink or try to have a type of hunting banned because that kind of thing tends to have a trickle down effect and that's one ball that none of us want to get rolling. I agree with you to he!! with them but that only works until they get the right lobbyists in place and the right support network behind them and then we are going have to do what they are doing very successfully; organize and unite.

Are you guys willing to risk all that just so you can be sure that little Johnny can't be out there with a weapon that gives him a little more advantage than you have?

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oh c'mon guys - everyone knows that 98% of compounders use sights and a triggered release. A very, VERY few people use fingers and shoot no-sights. Its a moot point to try and argure that now, because compounds today are BUILT to shoot release aids and sights.

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So...what? since we are already screwed let's just throw in the towel? Not me.

You'd be allowing the same ease of use bow, that has virtually the same range, same success rates etc etc that has a proven track record of NOT impacting archery season. Throwing in the towel ? For what ? Virtually the same kind of bow is what you're saying !

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IMO, there is a huge difference between only holding 20% of the weight and holding 0% of the weight.

Wow, if 20% is HUGE ............. what is your difference between a recurve and a compound ? HUGERESTER ?

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Also, the number one reason I fight xbows is the fact that you can sit on your arse, prop that baby up against your climber and shoot whatever comes into range, without moving a muscle.......

Now wait, you were just saying letoff was the huge thing ........... now its the fact you can sit and shoot or having minimal movements in the stand ? I can use those against those arguments against the compound, can't I ?

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Sure, it looks like a freaking bow, but it's not a bow. Sure, it has similar effective ranges, but it's not a bow. If you don't have to draw, hold by hand, etc, it's not a bow.

And once again ........ same arguments I can use against the compound. It looks like a bow, hsa the similar looks of a bow, you don't draw the full weight of the bow, don't use your fingers, gets its energy from the cams .......... its not a bow. Is it ?

MA Jay - no, I meant when is the line going to be drawn on the compound bow ?

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So how does a compound bow that you can hold at full draw as long as you want (99% let off) and only works with a trigger release as well as all the other bells and whistles listed in my other post compare to a long bow that only has a string? I don't know about you but I would think they would have just as strong an argument against compound bows as the compound bow users think they have against crossbows maybe even better, by stating that they are two completely different weapons even though they are both forms of bows.

Care to comment?

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Wow, if 20% is HUGE ............. what is your difference between a recurve and a compound ? HUGERESTER ?

Well considering that it would be impossible for you to hold my bow at full draw for 5 minutes then make a killing shot at 40yds, it can easily be done with xbow, nothing to hold, ever. That is huge.

Data, this isn't about recurves vs compounds

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I stated those were the 2 reasons. There is a big difference between minimal movement and no movement. Don't try to tell me drawing a bow with a P&Y buck right under your tree is minimal movement...... Oh yeah, no bs about drawing 2 minutes early, NOBODY does that

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MA Jay - no, I meant when is the line going to be drawn on the compound bow ?

When it shoots itself, like a xbow

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So how does a compound bow that you can hold at full draw as long as you want (99% let off) and only works with a trigger release as well as all the other bells and whistles listed in my other post compare to a long bow that only has a string? I don't know about you but I would think they would have just as strong an argument against compound bows as the compound bow users think they have against crossbows maybe even better, by stating that they are two completely different weapons even though they are both forms of bows.

Care to comment?

Compounds are already legal, why even bother with the argument?

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MA Jay - no, I meant when is the line going to be drawn on the compound bow ?

Great question .. and in it has come in the form of minimum draw weights. As in Maryland which states that a bow

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A bow means a longbow or compound bow, which is normally operated by using both hands. A
bow must have a full draw and pull of not less than 30 pounds.

This is the management or limitation of the compound bow. States are requiring that full draw weight must be a minimum poundage. States have also not allowed magnified sights and laser dots. So instead of opening the definiton of what is a legal bow .. they are tightening the requirements to meet legal archery gear. Which goes against the concept of allowing a crossbow.

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Care to comment?

BigJ, this also applies to you. 99% letoff is illegal, and the argument is strong against them.

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Compounds are already legal, why even bother with the argument?

They are legal because they were intergrated into bow hunting. Why bother with the argument...because it goes to show the hypocrisy some of you guys show. "It's ok for my bow to have all of the gismos that make so very different from a long bow....but you can't"

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows

BigJ12...... Do you bowhunt? If so, what type of bow?