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thesource 04-08-2005 02:52 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
"The hand held bow has one characteristic that distinguishes it from a crossbow or any type of firearm. The internal ballistics are a function of the shooter, his or her physical geometry and capabilities, shooting form, consistency and reaction to stress and trauma. In the crossbow and firearms, the internal ballistics are fixed. The action of the shooter in triggering a release of energy does nothing more than initiate a process that is consistent and repetitive."

-Norb Mullaney


Far be it from me to say a cat is a dog. No less a physics expert than Norb says so.

Double Creek 04-08-2005 02:53 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

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Hee, Hee, Hee, you are confused:D:D

thesource 04-08-2005 02:54 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 
"Exactly the same" doesn't usually leave much wiggle room.

BigJ71 04-08-2005 02:56 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Gotta love it BigJ. I live in NY, and OUR definition is as follows: (from the 2004 Hunting and trapping syllabus)

Bow - Includes long (stick), compound, or recurve bow

That's MY legal definition....and you walked right into it.
I will say this again for the seventh time or so. A state cannot define what an object is it can only determine if it's legal to use in that state. Just because YOUR state dosen't think a crossbow is a bow does not mean it's not one.

Can we get past this already, or do I have to say it another seven times?

MA Jay 04-08-2005 03:00 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

LOL - a crossbow is a bow, like it or not. Two working limbs and a string to propel an arrow.

BTW - a crossbow bolt IS an arrow (I love guys arguing that too !)
Guys .. we can't win. If Data believes this .. after all the dictionary definitons, the state laws saying otherwise, the archery organizations which say it isn't , the olympics and other archery sport managers like the NFAA. He's thinks because Arkansas .. yes, Arkansas, allows crossbow hunters to hunt during archery season makes it so ... well, there is no hope, and logic will not prevail.

I thought we may have got BigJ though. He's smart, well read and he at one point reponded to reason. But we lost him to. He thinks a crossbow is a bow. A "type" of bow just like a recurve, compound and long. Not a completely different weapon, but an actual bow.

Well you can't save them all. On the flip side, it's been cool hearing about the football stuff. Did you hunt in college? Probably not with that demanding schedule .. but what a state for wildlife!

BigJ71 04-08-2005 03:02 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Exactly the same" doesn't usually leave much wiggle room.
I don't want to turn this into an English lesson but you leave me no choice.

If someone says two things are exactly the same EXCEPT something, it means there IS a difference. It means that there is an exception to be looked at. Understand?

I can't believe I HAD to say that.:eek:

thesource 04-08-2005 03:06 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12

First it was "A crossbow is a firearm" remember?....... I shot that down. Now it's "well it's not a firearm but still not a bow" and I will shoot that down as well. Because you can post till your heart's content all of the OPINIONS you want, it still wont change the Legal definition.

Damn, you are not representin' well for BYU tonight. LEGAL definition would be what the state definition is, right?

BigJ71 04-08-2005 03:12 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary-
quote:

Main Entry: cross·bow
Pronunciation: -"bO
Function: noun
: a weapon for discharging quarrels and stones that consists chiefly of a short bow mounted crosswise near the end of a stock
There is your answer. What the definition is saying is: A cross bow is made chiefly (that means mostly) of a short bow.......a short BOW.

thesource 04-08-2005 03:13 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12


Exactly the same" doesn't usually leave much wiggle room.
I don't want to turn this into an English lesson but you leave me no choice.

If someone says two things are exactly the same EXCEPT something it means there IS a difference. It means that there is an exception to be looked at. Understand?

I can't believe I HAD to say that.:eek:

Damn, where's that dictionary you love so much.... I could swear that Exactly meant Exactly.....

I think its about 6th grade where you learn the word similar.... LOL

Man, I hate semantics

BigJ71 04-08-2005 03:15 PM

RE: please tell me just one negative to crossbows
 

Did you hunt in college?
All the time bro! even after pratice I would head up to the hills. It only took me 15min to be out in the middle of nowhere. I was in heaven!


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