BOWDACIOUS

Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Had to leave yesterday.

I live in the Northeastern part of Oklahoma. Welch to be exact, which is right between Vinita and Miami. I am only 8 miles from the Kansas line.

I am also from Oklahoma and I couldn't agree w/ you more, the most priced buck I have ever taken is the first little 7 pt. I will never forget it but I just don't get a thrill out of taking a 1 1/2 old buck anymore. They ar the dumbest deer in the woods. I also agree that some people don't have the kind of place to hunt where you can pass on deer when you may not see 5-6 deer all year. I spend tons of time making sure that isn't me though I am constantly looking for place to hunt and have had good luck. You get out of it what you put into it I have permision to hunt 4-5 places local as well as some public land that is bow only and I also have a lease to hunt on the weekends that is about an hour away. We are practicing QDM on the lease as well.

So can I........and so can 100 other guys here.......what does that have to do with you assuming everyone else shares your view of what a "trophy" is or what we should or should not harvest?


The whole thread is trying to encourage people to "pass the buck"=don't kill smaller, younger bucks. If that is your philosophy then fine.......but don't try and make everyone that doesn't agree with you feel like less of a hunter with all that "skills" and "desire" and "more challenging" crap.


Once again you assume too much.........every deer I saw at a check station this year was greeted with congrats by all hunters present........too bad you look at harvesting anything but a big antlered buck as something you should be ashamed of.


Again with the talking down to people garbage........as if what you do is "better" and more "challenging" This whole thread is nothing more then a big ego trip for you to look down on everyone else and tell them you are a better hunter then they are because you go after mature bucks only..........save your elitest babble because we have all heard it from 50 other guys that all think they are Fred Bear too.


I thought it wasn't about the rack size??..........Just once I would like to see someone be honest and not hide behind the MATURE buck line.......if bucks lost their antlers at age 2 no one would give a rats ass about older bucks and they would ALL be whacking the young guys before they dropped the headgear. Older bucks get killed by the hundreds of thousands every year.........the mythical unhuntable legend tag they have is 50% truth and 50% exageration to stroke fragile ego's

The thing that makes all those deer special is that they are not a dime a dozen.......if no one killed small bucks then they would be and you would be complaining that guys are shooting 5 1/2 yr olds when they should be letting them walk another year in hopes of a few more inches of bone.


At least you don't talk down to people.



The "best" you can be in my book is an ethical, safe hunter............I don't base my judgements of people by what they choose to shoot......as long as they have a tag for it.


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I'm happy for ya................just realize that people are different and not everyone shares your views........or your land. We are all in different situations but we are all hunters.....and we all should have left the "I'm better then you" crap back on the playground many years ago.

Welcome back BOW!

Well put, althought i doubt this debate will ever die [&:]

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Bow, I tried to send you a pm, but it said your mailbox was full.

Bow, i was refering this quote by atlasman.

I for one am pro QDM, in certain situations where its fesiable (spelling?) such as when you have the land and control over the area to exercise it. But this trying to cram it down people's throats certainly never gets anywhere and usually ends up sounding like an "I'm better than you" because i do this, so you should do it to arguement. Whether thats the intended result or not, it seems to happen quite a bit, at least on this board anyway. [&:] I think hunting in general has much bigger probelms to face, than us fighting each other over who wants to shoot what. Like Atlasman said we are all hunters here. But thats just my .02 cents.

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