Doug,

I don't think that statement truly applies. Try taking a 70 pound wheely bow and a 70 pound Black Knight II or Black Max II and see if one feels heavier than the other! I shot my sisters boyfriends (Brad) SB side by side with my Liberty, his SB was set at exactly 70# and my Liberty at 71# and there was a very very large differance. I could easily pull another 10# of draw weight with my Liberty where as with his SB, it was about the max that I would want to go with that bow.

Now, with that said, this isn't the normal thing with the SB, atleast from the one I shot at the shop when he was getting his! It was a 70# bow and felt pretty dang nice, much better than the actual bow that Brad got! We aren't sure what is wrong with his SB but something definetly is as this bow feels nothing at all like the bow we test shot!

A honest evaluation and full of useful information. The numbers don't lie which is why I don't buy a bow based on how it "feels". The numbers, all of the ones given must line up. They know most don't check. Best to have the proshop verify all the numbers while you watch. I am seeing a pattern in the matthews bows. This is the second time I've heard about this. People are plunking down some serious cash, best to get what you want not what they give you.

It all depends on how long it stays at 70#. A very smooth bow will peak at 70 very quickly. If you are used to drawing a bow at 70 that is not smooth, a smooth bow will put a much less strain on your arm although each are 70#. Hold your arm out empty and see just how fast it becomes heavy. Same principle.

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I'm saying at some point during the draw cycle it's going to feel like 70lbs if indeed it is a 70lb bow.

I dont care what scenario you give me , it's called physics!

Sure there are more appealing draw cycles. It differs from person to person. I just get a chuckle when I hear "it feels like 50lbs". I'll give you a 50lb bow to draw side by side and then tell me what it "feels like"

No kidding. It's kinda like putting a wind-chill factor on the draw weight. It's 30 degrees out, but it feels like 18. It is what it is, not what it feels like.

No doubt it is what it is but what people are talking about is how long the bow is actually staying at peak weight. If you hand me a 70 lb pow that only hit's peak for 2" of the draw cycle and then you hand me one that stays at peak for 6" of the draw cycle then the bows that stays at peak for 6" is going to feel like more weight because you had to exert more energy to draw the bow. That's why it doesn't feel like 70 incomparison to another bow.

During the draw the switchback drew much stiffer earlier in the draw cycle at a 2# lower draw weight than my infinity cammed Patriot does (IMHO).
During and after the shot if felt a lot like my Patriot, only slightly heavier.

Oh ya, and the 29" draw SB drew longer than my 29" Pat, maybe that's why it felt so stiff? I think Mathews sells them a little long.

Well stated!!

I love to read all the subtle bow bashing going on. It's very amusing.




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