And do you like them? I am trying to decide what arrow to go with, for my new bow. The Pro shop owner who is selling me my bow is trying to persuade me to try and buy Easton Axis, or the new Beman Black Max Camo. I told him I wanted a heavier arrow than normal even with the carbons. The thing that worries me is that both types of arrows are very skinny. I tried shooting and switching to carbons in 1997 that were pencil thin skinny. They were called Super Pro Carbons, I not sure who made them maybe Easton? Anyway I hated them they were very hard to tune with a broadhead, and they were too light for my liking. I was planning to shooting Gold Tips, and still might but I want to explore and learn all my options. Any experience or info about the Axis or Black Max is appreciated, thanks.

I am using the Axis 400's cut to 27 1/2" with 4" vanes and 100gr tip for a total arrow weight of 400gr's.

I have had no problem tuning them and no flight problems.

I have a dozen of the new AC Superslims on order they are the same dia as the Axis but have better straightness and weight tolerances.

Ausie-guy, out of curiosity, how much did the A/C Superslims run ya? Was thinking about going to those for '05.

I tried them this season and did not like them. Half way through the season I went back to ACC's. I found that if you hit anything solid, you pretty much damaged the arrow. It's a flawed design IMO and won't last long.

I will say though, they out penetrated my other arrows in my 3D targets.

I use Eastom Aluminums and I am switching to carbons for this next season. So I too am looking for some good ones. The Easton Axis are on my list toward the top to try.

Maybe its just me, but I dont reuse any arrow that hits anything solid. Its not worth getting arrow shards in your hand or eyes. We all saw the picture floating around here.

I had them splinter from hitting the shoulder rod of a 3D target. I've never seen ANY other carbon do that.

I did a test on mine and shot them into wood and i blew right through at 20 yrds. and there is nothing wrong with the arrow. I also shot one at a concrete wall and didn't damage the arrow at all.


I shoot the Axis and get great groups out to 30 yds.

I am shooting the Axis 340 & so far have been very happy with them. Just make sure you have them squared on the end where the broadhead attaches. If you don't they can be a pain to get a good spinning broadhead, if you get a good square end they work very good!

I too have found they are very durable. I had one to go through my old metal shed (not on purpose) and just went right on through no problem & no damage. I also tried the congrete test & they are impressive, no damage to the shaft so I say that is a durable arrow!

seems like you either love them or hate them.

I have I dozen I have been test shooting in targets and see little difference in performance. I have had one of my staff shooters complain that he hit a rock while hunting and the internal component let loose and the shaft splintered.
I do not see any real advantage to the internal tip component and it requires a 24 hour wait when installing before you can use them.
Seems to me that if there is a harder way to do something , they have found it. I would hate to be a pro shop setting them up for customers, extra labor costs.

I SHOT THE AXIS WHEN THAY FIRST COME OUT. AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE FLIGHT AND THE PENATION.THEY ALSO SHOT MY MUZZY BROADHEADS LIKE A DREAM. BUT AFTER AWHILE A VERY SHORT WHILE.I NOTICED THAT MY GROUPS WERE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL.SO I DID A SPIN TEST AND FOUND THAT 6 OUT OF THE 12 WHERE BENT VERY BAD. THE OTHER 6 THAT WASNT BENT WHERE THE 6 THAT I HAD NOT SHOT.BUT I STILL THINK EASTON IS ON TO SOMETHING THEY JUST NEED TO TWEEK IT A LITTLE AND MAKE THEM STRONGER. NEED LESS TO SAY I WENT AND BROKE THE GT OUT OF THE CLOSET AND STARTED TO SHOOT 2INCH GROUPS AT 30 YARDS AGAIN. SO ALL I DID WAS WASTE 120$ FOR SOME PRETTY ARROWS AND TRYED TO FIX SOMETHING THAT WASNT BROKE.