i currently have a api climber and have had it for about 3 years now and i like it, but i'm wanting somthing new so what would you guys reccomend. I want something that is safe,will be sturdy in the tree,light weight and easy to pack up. i was kind of wanting the new summit viper but someone told me that they would slip on the tree with you but i don't know thats just what i was told. any help would be appreciated thanks.

I have a summit viper and i can`t remember ever having it slip on a tree, As a matter of fact i have use API stands and just about every other stand made one time or another.And the summit stands beat them all hands down! It`s easy to set up on a tree becouse of the snake cable`s that they use, no pins bolts or any thing like that! I really like mine! i can`t think of a stand that ever used that i like as well as the summit viper!

I have an API and a Summit. Really like them both. I would have to say, however, that the Summit is a bit more comfortable.

Ol' Man makes a great treestand as well.

thanks guys i did a search on tree stands and it seems the summit is a great stand. I have one more question does the summit viper fold up flat,the reason i ask is because i seen one in cabelas that did but don't remember which summit it was thanks.

The one that folds up is the Bullet. I got one here in ther box. I can't imagine the Viper slipping on a tree. Sounds a bit like incompetence to me. I actually had to grind the teeth down about 1/8" and round them off to get it to loosen up on some soft bark trees. Poplar to be exact. It's the best stand I've had in over 30 years by far.

Can't beat the Old Man Grand Vision in my opinion I have 3 of them and have no plans on ever using anything else. Check into them you won't be disapointed.

I have used a Summit for more than 5 years now for both bow and shotgun seasons and have never had any issues with it. I feel secure and very comfortable. I'll probably buy the same stand for my son when he is of age to join me on hunts.

I have a summit cobra and I hate it. Too bulky, if the seat gets wet it's wet forever, also tough to shoot to the side because of the side rails( I like to shot setting down). When I stand to shoot the seat doesn't push back very well.
I know alot of people love this stand but I'm not one of them. I'm going to try one of the Lone Wolf stands.

Summit makes a great product.