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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Have nay of you guys ever hunted over a baited dove field?
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How do you know for sure? Maybe the bait was removed the day before season. Maybe you didn't have any idea and still don't but there is no way that you can say for absolute certain. Maybe you haven't broken a law to the best of your knowledge but that doens't mean you never broke one. Maybe the scenario in question doesn't apply to you but maybe it does. Maybe you killed a turkey that was headed to a bait pile that you didn't know about and maybe you still don't know about it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen and it doesn't make it any less illegal. Just a couple of the countless scenarios that glare at me when I see the self righteous come here and say they "KNOW" for certain that they have never broken a game law.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:22 AM
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The co opinoin has nothing to do if weather on not I am legal in this situation. A co can not assume that it is not bright enough. For this to stand in court the co would need to take the garment as evidence and have it tested in a lab. If it passed I pass. If not I ante up.
If the CO's interpretation of a law makes no difference then why did you say
In this specific instance you have brought up wether or not the co feels it is in violation is irrelevant. To convict in court they will need to have the material tested. A co is no better qualified to detect nanometers by eye than I am.

If this is the only way to prove you point then by all means continue. I have never been charged with game violations and IMHO will never be as I follow all game laws. I do make sure my garment are in good condition and if there is a question (again personal safety) I will replace it.

I'm not sure why it is so important to you to "prove" I or others may have broken a game law. Read the book, know the laws and follow them. It's quite simple I might add.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:27 AM
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Off the record: Maybe
On the record: Never

Gamewardens are your best freind until you admit wrong doing or they feel they can get you for something.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:30 AM
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In this specific instance you have brought up wether or not the co feels it is in violation is irrelevant. To convict in court they will need to have the material tested.
The same thing goes with calling the CO for an interpretation of a law. The one that you call may have a different interpretation of the one that checks you so saying you weren't breaking law because you checked with a CO is again misleading. Or are you saying that you have never broken a law unless you have been convicted? Is someone that spotlights and shoots game at night not a poacher unless they have been convicted?

I'm not sure why it is so important to you to "prove" I or others may have broken a game law.
The only thing that I am trying to prove is how hypocritcal that some people can be and you have made it quite easy. Thanks
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:33 AM
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The fact is you could every law in your state and still break them. Some laws are written so poorly and are so old that they simply cannot function in today times. It's up to hunters with ethics to determine how far it goes.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:36 AM
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Or are you saying that you have never broken a law unless you have been convicted?
If you got this from any of my post I'd suggest reading comprehension classes. I stated I follow game laws and have never and IMHO will never be convicted of breaking one. You can argue these grey areas all you want. Maybe I see game laws more black and white then you do.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:37 AM
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Your so right about how that warden interprets the law.
I was hunting state land and talking with a warden over a beer. We were discussing baiting. You are allowed to bait your spot on private land not state land. The warden told me to get around that law you bait your friends spot and he baits your spot on state land. He also said he would have to proove you baited your own spot to get a conviction.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:40 AM
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It's up to hunters with ethics to determine how far it goes.
I'd be careful Silent Assassian may flame you next.LOL
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Old 06-29-2004 | 09:56 AM
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1. I can't believe this thread is still open
2. a nanometer I believe, is 10 ^ -9 meters
3. I read an article trying to show the ambiguity of a game law. the 6 regional offices were called for clarification of this law. 4 different respones were given. Sometimes you can't even win there.
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Old 06-29-2004 | 10:02 AM
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Maybe I see game laws more black and white then you do.
Or maybe bending the laws that you see as an inconveinence doesn't count? Or maybe you spin reality to fit your definition?

As far as the reading comprehension thing goes, you made an obvious distinction between the fact that a game warden saying that you broke a law doesn't mean that you are guilty of breaking a law. So I was looking for a clarification of your perception. (See the last line of the above paragraph)

I'd be careful Silent Assassian may flame you next
I may flame someone but I won't set in judgement of them for something that I am guilty of myself nor will I claim to be something that I am not
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