enough said , forget high country , and their arrows , they cant even keep it together at a show .

Whats the difference in brace height? Have you measured exact draw lengths?

The Four Runners are definitely quick, but I've found most of the HCAs to be an inch or more long at AMO/ATA spec (true, BowTechs can run long too, but not nearly as bad as they once were). My HCA Brute Force runs a shade over 30" at the 29" setting . I suspect the difference in brace height is about an inch too. Thats a big powerstroke advantage.

Try an Extreme VFT vs. the Four Runner and see what happens

But yes..HCA bows have always been real quick, and very accurate bows. I shot them for many years.

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You just lost my respect

Now, now, Rack... I dang near threw my Hoyts in the trash the day I shot an HCA Excalibur. What a bow that was! As far as I know, that's the only model HCA ever made in my draw length.[&o]

the reason that bow exploded was because high country had a bow set up and dried fired it like 8000 times before a failure they wasn't shooting it was dry firing and their light arrows that has caused such a big deal is supposed to have a spine stiffer than a game tracker 400 but high country bows are fast shooting regular arrows through them and are just as good or better than any bow out there.

I agree - back in the day they where the best...........................

Arthur before you go throwing any hoyts in the trash send em over here first. What year and model hoyts. Im going to be honest hear Im a new bowhunter and have only shot PSE and Hoyt. I like my hoyt alot, but from all the talk on these boards I would love to shoot a Bowtech or Matthews!! Just to try.
Anyway High Country archery, I think I have seen those bows in Cabelas mags. Also These arrows being so light would only make good for target shooting. I personally am only concerned with the smack on impact!!! the KE the setup pushes at out to 40 yards.
But trust me I know some speed freaks too, and got nothing against em!!!


Jim

I'd like to see other brands hold up to 8000 dry-fires!

Look at it this way folks, in today's litigious society, nobody is gonna promote a product that is unsafe. They will not stay in business very long and the company leadership would be held personally responsible.

HCA is taking a new direction toward ultra-speed bow/arrow combos. While they may not be ideal for all hunting applications, I could see the 3D and possibly target shooters adopting the flat shooting ultra-light arrows.

It wasn't that long ago that manufacturers recommended arrows at least 7-8 grains/pound. Now they agree that 5g/p is safe. As bow technology improves and arrow spine increases, I have no doubt that we'll be down to 3-4 g/p in the near future

HCA cannot afford to advertise like Mathews and Hoyt. I feel they are seeking a niche market of archers seeking speedier arrows and flatter trajectories.

I personally shoot a HCA bow because it is fast and was able to adapt to my needs of short draw length, quietness, and arrow speed. I shoot 5 grains/pound and have no qualms or fears the bow will come apart in my hand. I have considered the ultra-light arrows since they first came out last year but have not yet tried them. No doubt I will someday.

Good luck!

I would have been happy to see my carbon 4 runner hold up to 8000 regular fires unfortunately it didn't hold up but about 80 regular fires and then it blew up[:'(][:@]

If after 80 shots your bow fell apart, I can see how that may turn you away from HCA.

There are bad models or examples in every product. Maybe you got a bad one or it was out of tune really bad.

Did they, or the bow shop, stand behind the bow?

Good luck!