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rybohunter

Good analogy Rack

Stealthy,
I didn't want to get drug into the Xbow fight, but you insist on going there. I will give you that a highly skilled compound shooter and ANY(even the most novice) Xbow shooter are going to be group roughly the same regarding accuracy. Now take a brand new archer shooting a compound and a brand new Xbow user, and the Xbow user will dust them by a mile.

How hypocrital is it the you bust on me for not having a love of archer yet still choosing to hunt, when you do the same regarding squirrels.

Maybe they aren't, but why should that prevent them form enjoying bowhunting. You don't see me jumping all over you for shooting squirrels when you don't enjoy rifle shooting, why are people jumping all over me because I'm not a die hard fanatic archer.

Answer me why a true love of archery should be a pre-requisite to bowhunt?????? But a true fascination with guns not be required

Jerry/Pa

I'd say there might be a slight difference between other sports/recreation and bowhunting. The fact we kill live game might make a difference. No big deal if I hit a slice in golf or have a throwing erra in a baseball game. Wounding an animal in bowhunting should be a big deal. Thats what seperates us from other sports. So participation/preparation might a factor with bowhunting. If my preparation is sucking the life out of the sport I'd say thats a good thing. Better then the life of some wounded animal. The thing about this sport is you get back what you put into it. I hope that the kids coming into this sport get a chance to learn good ethics as I was taught. Jerry

Rack-attack

First Off - My response was tongue and Cheek - I was doing my best impression of YOU and others.........LOL

Guess I did good...............


Or.........my way is better than yours, my practice, my ethics, my shooting, my tuning.....bla, bla,bla bla.......

Get it????????

Nimrod

rybohunter

ewolf,
that went right over your head.

silentassassin

I have read most of this thread (not all) but I am going to go ahead and reply this way and you all can take it as you will. I shoot the mojority of the summer and shoot thousands of shots, however I have a good friend that pulls his bow out and shoots maybe 3 times the week before season and that's it. Last year he killed 5 deer with his bow. 3 bucks ( 2 DANDIES) and 2 does. He POLAXED all 5 of them and killed a deer everytime he dropped the string. Now call that what you will but I would be willing to bet that not many people that posted on this thread were more successful and I know no one had a better kill shot average. it's pretty hard to call those averages unethical. JMO

stealthycat

I suppose you could say all those things and more, but then you'd be making the case that equipment doesn't make the hunter, the hunter makes the hunter - correct ? (I'm playing along here)

I challenge that. I bet almost anybody can shoot a tuned compound well at 20 yards - its not a great skill, it really isn't.

Careful ... you mean I don't have a love of SHOOTING - right ? True, I don't, I am using the gun as a tool to do what i DO want to do, and that hunt squirrells. But heres the kicker - you can use most anything to hunt squirrels with and nobody bitches about mine is better than your way etc. Use dogs, shotguns, .22's, bows, double team them .... whatever. Right ?

An excellent question that isn't easy to answer. Maybe it has to do with the difficulty of the weapon ? Maybe its a traditions thing ? Maybe its none of that but is just something we all talk about in the off season and the core reason is the G&F departments of yours and my states decide we can use XXX weapons to control the deer herds ?

I'll say it again ... and please understand this is true .... I do not care what you choose to bowhunt with, I really don't, not until modern compounds and/or crossbow are proven to be a negative to the sport of archery. You can expand that to guns too .... use whatever you want to unless it violates what is generally considered ethical and/or until it becomes a negative to the deer herds. An example would be in central US states where rifles are not legal - if they were, there would be more hazards afield and many more deer killed - negatives to the sport.

I am tying this all into one package at the end .... archery equipment doesn't make the hunter - I think we can all agree on that - however there is a big difference when it comes time to shoot. The whole hunt for that 180" whitetail is almost identical up until the shot - and at that point if you have a compound in hand, or a crossbow, or a recurve/ longbow, things change drastically. Prior to the hunt too theres a difference if we want to take into account the time and dedication that one must have/show to master a given weapon.

Is or isn't that true ?

stealthycat

silentassassin - what kind of bow does he shoot ?

Rack-attack

you know its not trad.....................JK

silentassassin

You mean they make more than one kind? He shoots a Bowtech Black Knight (low brace).