New bows that can beat my antique?
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Fork Horn
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From: Vermont
Hi there, newcomer here. I've been getting an itch for a new bow. I've been shooting a Proline Point Blank "New Wave" for the last 12 years. It has been a good bow but it's ready for retirement.
My question is : is there a reasonably priced bow out there that can beat 235fps at 62lbs, 28.5" draw with a 490gr arrow?? My current hunting setup is a 28.5" XX75 2413 with a 125gr broadhead. I'd like to not go over $500 or so for the bare bow, if that's possible.
I've been eyeing the new Hoyt's and have shot the UltraMag ($440) and the XTec ($690). I shot my arrows over the chrony with the UltraMag this week and they were doing 231fps with nothing but a peep and a nock set on the string (while I didn't try this with the XTec, I doubt it will be more than a few fps better). I was a little disappointed to say the least, seeing as how my 12yr old bow does that with 2 sets of cat whiskers, 2 nock sets, a kisser button and a peep!! Do I really have to spend $700+ to beat this performance? I'm looking for an intermediate length bow (34" to 36" or so) with a 7"+/- brace height. No preference as far as cams, split vs one-piece limbs, etc.
Thanks for your help!! ... Shockwave
My question is : is there a reasonably priced bow out there that can beat 235fps at 62lbs, 28.5" draw with a 490gr arrow?? My current hunting setup is a 28.5" XX75 2413 with a 125gr broadhead. I'd like to not go over $500 or so for the bare bow, if that's possible.
I've been eyeing the new Hoyt's and have shot the UltraMag ($440) and the XTec ($690). I shot my arrows over the chrony with the UltraMag this week and they were doing 231fps with nothing but a peep and a nock set on the string (while I didn't try this with the XTec, I doubt it will be more than a few fps better). I was a little disappointed to say the least, seeing as how my 12yr old bow does that with 2 sets of cat whiskers, 2 nock sets, a kisser button and a peep!! Do I really have to spend $700+ to beat this performance? I'm looking for an intermediate length bow (34" to 36" or so) with a 7"+/- brace height. No preference as far as cams, split vs one-piece limbs, etc.
Thanks for your help!! ... Shockwave
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From: Inverness, MS
Speed means nothing to me. I go for accuracy, forgiveness, quite, smooth, etc.
I lob my arrows out of my 2002 Protec at about 250 fps at 63lbs. I just bought an 2003 Protec with cam & 1/2 and I imagine I may pick up a few more fps, if not who cares, you won't find a quiter, smoother, more forgiving bow.
If you want speed, try Bowtech, they will definitely beat the 232 fps requirement
I lob my arrows out of my 2002 Protec at about 250 fps at 63lbs. I just bought an 2003 Protec with cam & 1/2 and I imagine I may pick up a few more fps, if not who cares, you won't find a quiter, smoother, more forgiving bow.
If you want speed, try Bowtech, they will definitely beat the 232 fps requirement
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Fork Horn
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From: Vermont
Thanks, Double Creek. I realize that there is more to the equation than just speed. I'm assuming that most of the bows out there today will shoot well and I'll be testing some more as I work my way toward a decision.
BUT ... I can' help but feel that 12yrs of technology advancements SHOULD be giving me a little flatter trajectory than what I've been dealing with for all those years! I guess I can't justify a new bow to myself without some sort of tangible gain. Touchy, feely stuff is a hard sell! (btw ... I'm frugal, not cheap! And if it ain't broke don't fix it!)
Thanks .... Shockwave
BUT ... I can' help but feel that 12yrs of technology advancements SHOULD be giving me a little flatter trajectory than what I've been dealing with for all those years! I guess I can't justify a new bow to myself without some sort of tangible gain. Touchy, feely stuff is a hard sell! (btw ... I'm frugal, not cheap! And if it ain't broke don't fix it!)
Thanks .... Shockwave
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From: Inverness, MS
Keep checking, some of speed geeks will be on here soon and posting what you could expect at those numbers. I can't believe the Xtec didn't chrono higher than 231 fps at 63lbs and 28.5 inch draw!??? Just doesn't sound right IMO.
I shoot 63 lbs with a 28 inch draw and I get 245-250 with a 420 grain arrow out of my 2002 Protec.
I shoot 63 lbs with a 28 inch draw and I get 245-250 with a 420 grain arrow out of my 2002 Protec.
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Fork Horn
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Rack-attack - My Proline has a brace height of 6 7/8", I believe. I don't have it here right now to doublecheck, but it is not a short brace bow. It is a 41" A-to-A, double cam (more like an energy wheel) bow. I really didn't think it would be a hard bow to beat with today's bows, which is why I was shocked / disappointed that the Hoyt was actually slower at the same poundage and using my arrows.
I will be checking out the Bowtech's, but didn't think I'd have to spend that much money to get a little more performance. I'm not a speed freak (I do shoot a 490gr arrow!!). Just looking for an improvement!
Thanks! ... Shockwave
I will be checking out the Bowtech's, but didn't think I'd have to spend that much money to get a little more performance. I'm not a speed freak (I do shoot a 490gr arrow!!). Just looking for an improvement!
Thanks! ... Shockwave
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Fork Horn
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I didn't chrono the XTec, but it's IBO speed is only 5fps faster than the UltraMag and the UltraMag clocked at 231fps with nothing but a peep and nock set on the string. I will try the XTec just to satisfy my curiosity, but I don't expect it to be more than a few fps better than the UMag (which would put it just about equal to my Proline).
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Nontypical Buck
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I shoot 63 lbs with a 28 inch draw and I get 245-250 with a 420 grain arrow out of my 2002 Protec.
If you take those numbers and then subtract the 23-25 fps that you would lose by kicking your weight up that extra 70 grains, that would put you shooting a 490 gr. arrow at 222-227.




