I don't know. How many is "so many?" What does the question have to do with the price of tea?

If you are suggesting that vanes cannot be shot off a prong-rest without experiencing too many problems, I know a lot of shooters that can prove you wrong.

I like the WB - because it is so simple. If someone has a riser cut too shallow - its not the fault of the WB?????

The WB is just plain simple, and logical to set up. If you are having trouble ............... don't listen to anything anyone has told you about setting up a rest ........ sit down, and think about the mechanics of an arrow passing through the WB - and the adjustments are obvoius.

No rest is perfect - but the WB is just about as simple as it gets - thats the allure!

I'm suggesting exactly that !! Most people prefer feathers with prong style rest because they are more forgiving of fletching contact and stabilize faster. That's what it's got to do with the price of tea !!!! You ramble about all this crap with the WB knowing full well that people have to tinker and pick fletchings and helical styles and arrow shafts to shoot prong style rest best ! I have read posts of yours regarding aluminum arrows and how they give more fletching clearance for prong style rest.........so in effect.....what I'm saying is I'll bet that you choose a shaft....fletching ...and offset configuration to allow for minimal fletching contact !! So why in the !@#$ do you make a long rambling post about people doing the same for a WB ????

With a prong, you are trying to eliminate that slight bit of fletch contact, with the WB, it is impossible to eliminate fletch contact. With that fact alone, I would not try a WB. I'm sure it works great for lots of folks, but I would never trust it and it would drive me nuts knowing my precious feathers were getting damaged

CBM SC:

I am not sure what your specific point is, but for the sake of input for those that read for the purpose of making a decision, I'll try to respond.

You said: "Most people prefer feathers with prong style rest because they are more forgiving of fletching contact and stabilize faster."

I have been shooting a bow for a very long time and I am unable to say that most people prefer and use feathers on a prong rest. Is there specific data available on this?

You said: "You ramble about all this crap with the WB knowing full well that people have to tinker and pick fletchings and helical styles and arrow shafts to shoot prong style rest best !"

Of course they do! However, nowhere near as much as is necessary for other types of rests, especially the "WB." In addition, I am not saying that to have to "tweak" is indicative that a piece of equipment is inferior. I am saying that if one has to totally change or compromise an appropriate setup in order to use a particular piece of equipment, that not only is ridiculous, to do so is idiocy.

For my prongs, I simply use a 1 or 2 degree offset and align the fletch pass through via my uni-nock. Being I shoot a 2315, I have plenty of clearance. Some bowhunters I know, that use a prong rest use full helical and do not have any problems due to the forgiveness of the feather fletch. I once used plastic vanes for a season (shot off my prong rests), and the only thing I did was to use a straight fletch. I went back to feathers because the vanes were prone to tearing and curling. Clearance was not an issue.

You said: " …..what I'm saying is I'll bet that you choose a shaft....fletching ...and offset configuration to allow for minimal fletching contact !!"

You lose your bet! I choose a shaft and setup the shaft to meet the requirements of my draw-length, the bow's draw-weight, best flight, best penetration, and reliability and durability. If I were to determine that an accessory required that I change or compromise my shaft setup, that accessory would be in my junk-box.

How many threads can you link to in which shooters are requesting input because they are having great difficulty setting up and adjusting a prong-type rest to enable their shafts to clear the rest without extensive fletch/vane contact and without wearing or tearing the fletch/vane? Apparently, the "WB", although it might be a "middle of the road" piece of equipment, will work....for some.... if eventually setup properly. However, not all shooters settle for "middle of the road" rigs.

Lastly, I made a "........!@#$.." post directed to Mossberg so that he has more food for thought rather than (just) a snack; and because I thought this forum is suppose to be (mostly) instructive, not a "chat room."

DB (BI), I used Tru-flight feathers on an offset for a year and there is no noticable wear on them ! I am not trying to be sarcastic when I say that you aught to try one ......I don't think you would see as bad of effects as you think !!

Contact is the WB's friend !! It gets equal and opposing pressure on all sides ! If you think about it .....it can't kick too much.....because the opposing pressure will stop it ! Out of tune yes.....but not nearly like getting contact on a prong style rest !

C903......That's my point......someone says they use a low profile vane at an offset on a WB to get proper clearance and you act like it is some huge tuning issue !

My point is that it's not any different than what your doing !

And as far as my comment about most people using feathers ....do a poll.... I have seen enough post in a year to feel like the majority using prong style rest are using feathers !!

Good luck to you.....always interesting.....but getting nowhere again on this one !! I'll see ya next WB post !!

CBM SC:

Now I hear you!

RE:

"…..someone says they use a low profile vane at an offset on a WB to get proper clearance and you act like it is some huge tuning issue!"

No! I did not say that if someone uses a low-profile vane through a WB, doing so is a huge tuning issue.

What I did say, in certain terms: was that it is nonsensical for a person to change or compromise a present setup that has already been to determined to be the correct setup, and has been performing in an excellent manner, just to meet the excessive demands of a particular arrow rest.

I said, in certain terms: that changing the size, weight, type, of vane/or fletch on a setup that has already been established to be correct, could create new tuning and flight problems and blow away what was previously correct. To invite the risk and jump through all the hoops just to use a complex rest that is designed with a primary purpose of preventing an arrow from falling off the rest, does not seem sensible....at least not to me.

I was referring to the post accompanying this sentence ....and particularly this comment !!

Curmudgeon: It takes years of hunting and loads of perserverance to acomplish the Superslam of all 28species of North American big game with a bow. These guys can use any rest they want on their bows. Three out of the five who have been successful in taking the Superslam have been using the whisker biscuit to do so. Tom hoffman, Jack Frost, and Jim Ryan all shoot whisker biscuits because its the best hunting rest. They are successful seasoned hunters and can choose any rest in the world and they went with the biscuit. How can you malign a rest that you have never used when so many have had success with it? Perhaps you cannot help yourself because you are a crusty ill-tempered old man. Don't choke on your dentures! Good luck hunting!