captain,

I see your point, it isn't the "traditional" bow advertising, but, this un-traditional advertising is making the company money and is promoting their bow lineup. Just think of how many people out there read this post, which started with negative comments, that might not have known about Martin bows. It is all about shock value.

These guys who own bow companies for the most part are sportsmen, but, above that, businessmen! If putting a sexy women in a ad that looks semi provacative will make them and extra million dollars a year, then why not do it? It is all about the $$$$$ All companies do this. Some do it with woman, some do it with other means of shock value. The Mathews attack adds, they might not have been the best way to promote their product, but, it opened up alot of peoples eyes to that company. Winners Choice add where they bash Zebra strings, yet again, not the best way to promote their product, but, it got alot of talk and opened up peoples eyes to their company!!!!!!!

The only thing getting me is calling this "porn"! Far from it. Anybody can see that. Should we ban art museums with sculptures of naked people in them?

The thing that gets me is people who say "I will not get a bow from company X because they did this/that in an add" What if a Martin bow is the absolute perfect bow for somebody and they refuse to buy it simply due to a add? Is that right?

That is my major problem. Somebody would be willing to throw out a great company like Martin, just because of an add. If it is all about the bows, then you should be able to ignore this add and get the bow that fits you, maybe it is a Martin, maybe not. Don't let the adds decide what fits you, you have to feel the bow and shoot the bow to decide if it is what works for you. If you only choose a company (be it car company, archery company, computer company, ect), by ethics and advertising, then you will be living in a shack that you made out of tree-bark and you won't own a single possession!!!!!!!!

B M,

I agree, the appropriate term for this is probably not "porn". I would call it "desparation sleeze", but not porn, necessarily.

I disagree, however, about not buying a bow , even if it fit you perfectly, being the wrong thing to do. The consumer has a choice. They know their money goes to pay the company's bills. IMO, I would not buy the bow knowing the money was in part going to help finance these kinds of ads. I would not want to reward this company for doing something I feel is unethical. There is such a thing as principle and integrity , you know. Or at least with me there is. I wouldn't shoot a Martin if they gave it to me. It's simply a matter of ethics, morals, integrity and PRINCIPLE. Surely you can understand that. Would you buy a product from the guy running an archery shop down the street if you found out he was a rapist? A little extreme, but it gets the idea across. LIke the song says, " you've got to stand for something , or you'll fall for anything".

By the way, if it's all about the bows, as you suggested, and we should be able to ignore the ad, then why have an ad like this to begin with???????
The fact is , as we have both stated, this ad is aimed at hormones, name recognition, shock value, etc. And there are still a lot of advertisers out there that do not stoop to this level, so I should be able to live in my home for a while, anyway.

What would happen if the bow were getting endorsed by Pope & Young, or Don Kisky, Jay gregory or the Drury brothers?? Those guys know there stuff.
That's something that would probably mean something to me, but I'm not falling for the girl-in-heat, especially with the suggestive nature. C'mon Martin, can't you do better than that???? Build a better bow and leave the sleeze to HBO!

Oh well, enough on this thread for me!

I thought see looked better with the black pants and top in the Sept and Oct issues of Bowhunter Mag. I shoot a Champion but YOU GO GIRL!!!

I thought see looked better in the black pants and top in the Sept and Oct issues of Bowhunter Mag. I shoot a Champion BUT YOU GO GIRL!!!

Captainbackstrap, Pull your head out of your a$$!
Where did I try to make Scott a child molester? You on the other hand posted that it sounds like I'm the one that knows about child molestation! How dare you imply something like that. On top of that you attempt to trash my name? My name was given to me by my Grandfather and I'm honored to be named by him. You on the other hand use some made-up "board name" to hide behind. As for me having a Bible and knowing what's in it, I've been a Christian since Sept. 1967 and have held positions in my church and have taught classes and was involved in "visitations" for a great many years. What you and Scott fail to see is how the majority can't see this ad as porn. Boycott the magazine and bow manufacturer and write letters to voice your displeasure. How anybody could come-up with the idea that this ad portrays fellatio is twisted thinking! I can just imagine the things you and Scott see in the clouds. Maybe you could get a package deal along with Scott on mental help.

Porn? Sex acts?

You guys are nuts.

I hate holyrollers[:@]!
If I am not mistaken, didn't god give man freedom to choose.
No, I am not condoning child molesting, priest touching boys, rape, murder, or any other form of making someone do something that they don't want to, or breaking the laws. We all know that the law makers are never wrong.
Why do we always have people trying to shove their values down other peoples throats?
If you don't like it, don't look at it! And don't tell me that I can't look.
Personaly, I would love to mount her in my livingroom and get that turn around kiss.(If I were single)
I don't make choices based on sexy adds, but I do like to look at them. They just make me fill good inside[:-]. The wife likes the extra attention too.

The ad is not offensive to me but I respect the right of others to cancel their subscriptions. It is interesting that people who are so religious whether Catholic, Protestant, Muslim etc are always quick to point out why the rest of us are hellbound. Also why does it seem that the homo, lesbo, child molester comments just have to be thrown in? I will defend your right to your beliefs but that doesn't make them right. Good hunting and leave me alone. I don't want you to save me.

[quote]ORIGINAL: captain backstrap

WOW!!!
This is the same girl in tight ,revealing clothes acting like she's about to be rear-ended.Why do you think she's not looking at the camera? It's the SUGGESTION , not just that it's a girl.

[] Well Captain Backstrap if that is what you see....[]...then you are one sick, demented person.........that is my personal opinion & i'm sticking too it!!!!!!! Hell, just go out on the street & you can see girls with a lot less clothing as well as much more revealing clothing on...does that mean you aren't going to venture out on the street any more??? Bet you even get ready for bed in the dark so your wife won't see you naked!!!!!!!!! Get a life..[:-]..Brampton Mike [8D]

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